woodenboater Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Was at the Toronto International Boat Show during setup and was chatting with one of the main guys at I can't remember which marina. I mentioned the big arse Verados (lots of twins) on the boats and asked him about Yamahas. He said, and this surprised me, that the Yamahas were outselling Mercs by about 10:1. This sound right or way out in left field ? Think he mentioned the Yamaha technology was better as well. There were some seriously nice cruisers (Carvers, Meridiens, Marquis etc) in the big toys area and Legend had lots of boats as did Princecraft. Lund hadn't set up yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 That is horse manure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 The only thing missing on Mercs is rope...to make a black anchor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I've had both and their both good motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Everyone has their own agenda And it's easier to put down the other guy. Then build up your own product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cram Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Considering the Brunswick-Merc combo, I doubt that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Possibly if he's talking worldwide.... No way if he's talking North America.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxie Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Possibly if he's talking worldwide.... No way if he's talking North America.... Look at the automotive market. Japanese vs Domestic. Just take a head count when walking through any parking lot. Thats a testament to superior quality. As far as Merc numbers on the water? There are still enough die hards who dont mind being fed an inferior product time and time again as well as those willing to save a few bucks now only to shell out more bucks down the road. Check retail and resale numbers. Edited January 7, 2014 by moxie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Maybe that was his places numbers? And as with anything, best selling doesn't mean best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 You'll find nice new Yamis on all the Coast Guard boats this year Bye bye Evinrude! lol!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Look at the automotive market. Japanese vs Domestic. Just take a head count when walking through any parking lot. Thats a testament to superior quality. As far as Merc numbers on the water? There are still enough die hards who dont mind being fed an inferior product time and time again as well as those willing to save a few bucks now only to shell out more bucks down the road. Check retail and resale numbers. The topic is marine engines not sure the automotive market is relevant in this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpierre Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 My local marina ( sells Yammi, Merc and BRP) says that most of their upgrades of motors are BRP. Virtually no warranty issues. I'm a Yammi guy myself. 6yrs on 115 hp no problems. Talk to me in another 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Like Lew I have owned both and the Optimax is a very good motor good on fuel easy to maintain as was the Yamaha not withstanding a impeller that gave way after one season. I would buy either again!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Farmer Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I have a Honda and like it but I have a few buds that have 4stroke Mercs and they are far quieter than my Honda. Most 4 stroke Mercs are Tohatsu engines. I talked to my local guy marine that sells all brands and asked a loaded question about what he sells most and what is the most reliable and he could only say that when he sells a Yamaha he never see's them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Merc could not even keep up with orders in 2013. I know I was waiting for delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan668 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Love my opti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 When a big boat company decides what motor to put on their boats other than getting a brand name they go with what company will sell them the motors cheapest simple economics. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirk Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Moxie in north american merc out sells yammie 10-1 so obviously merc would have a greater number of repair occurences but if you looked at repairs per 1000 units sold i think you would see yammie is not less prone to failure nor a "better" engine. They only possible truth to the yammie sells better would be if he was only comparing verado to the sho 4 stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GbayGiant Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Poptimax. No thank you. Verado. Better Yamaha. Now that is an engine doubted from it's birth into the water. Not many doubts anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I would say it's pretty even with my friends Merc Yammha. I've been in most of there boats. Performance about the same. More props available for merc. Yamaha's are just terrible to get parts for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeXXington Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 My 2003 merc made in the USA best ever, My 2008 Merc made in China not so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenboater Posted January 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Maybe that was his places numbers? And as with anything, best selling doesn't mean best. that might be it but all the boats he had were all Mercury…if I go to the show and can find him, will ask again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskieman Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 But didn't Yamaha and Mercury / Mariner share engine blocks 90-115 range at some point ? That turned out to be absolute garbage ? Not bashing either brand ( BRP , Suzuki , Tohatzu and Honda ) included ... just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I'm a yammy guy myself. Still running a 93. Runs like a charm, but needs lower unit work now....no complaints At all. It doesn't owe me a cent. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 My 2003 merc made in the USA best ever, My 2008 Merc made in China not so much Well if the Chinese did indeed make my 2008 Optimax they did a fine job it has been flawless!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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