fishindevil Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 heard on the radio this morning early,that there was a crash on simcoe last night or yesterday,when a truck hit a pressure crack,with 5 people in it and 2 were killed is that correct ? dont even know if it was fishermen....thats terrible news for sure...can anyone confirm this ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxie Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 As of last night it was one dead(32 yr old woman), two with serious injury and the other two with minor injuries. It seems they were thrown from the vehicle and speed was definately a factor. Damn shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I heard they rolled the truck. Would love to know what really happened. Speed? Its not easy to roll a truck on a frozen lake.... S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Always sad to hear this sorta stuff. https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbarrie.ctvnews.ca%2Fone-dead-and-four-injured-in-accident-on-lake-simcoe-1.1731704&ei=qt8mU4ecBI72qgGBmoDwBA&usg=AFQjCNEJwMb0w737AdGCpJ3YlQp1kmCOHQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallie Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Thats just terrible. It wouldnt be to hard to roll i was out there yesterday on my trike. The bare ice mixed with some small drifts means that if that the truck goes sideways and grips, its going over. My sympathy to the families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I heard they rolled the truck. Would love to know what really happened. Speed? Its not easy to roll a truck on a frozen lake.... S. It is when you're out there doing 70mph and hit a pressure crack.. People rip around on that lake ALL the time.. Edited March 17, 2014 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAW Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I am betting they where all un-buckled driving on the ice.... Horrible thing to hear about. Condolences to the families and everyone involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Years ago my brother was snowmobiling across Scugog and when he hit a patch of clear ice he slid sideways then hit a pressure ridge and flipped his machine and was thrown off. Luckily he he wasn't going too fast and wasn't seriously injured. I'd imagine it could happen just as easily with a truck if you were going fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxie Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I heard they rolled the truck. Would love to know what really happened. Speed? Its not easy to roll a truck on a frozen lake.... S. Can happen. With the right amount of speed you can flip a go cart on a flat surface. Believe me, I've had them up on two wheels a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outllaw Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 a mistake,bad judgment. then we read this... sad deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 It only takes a second! There have been a few times when I have "taken a chance" = "not really sure what to expect but nothing bad is going to happen". It really goes to show that ANYTHING can happen and it can happen in a heartbeat. I've been one of the lucky ones, my number just wasn't up at that time but it can happen to any of us at any time no matter how invincible you might think you are! I'll bet you anything the driver of that truck didn't go out there that day thinking that someone would die. My heart goes out to the families and all that were involved, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAW Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Years ago my brother was snowmobiling across Scugog and when he hit a patch of clear ice he slid sideways then hit a pressure ridge and flipped his machine and was thrown off. Luckily he he wasn't going too fast and wasn't seriously injured. I'd imagine it could happen just as easily with a truck if you were going fast enough. Exact same thing happened to my buddy on a quad last year. Smashed the helmet right off his head. Serious concussion and whip lash... But he survived with no broken bones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) My thoughts go out to the families. This could easily happen to any of us. Those pressure cracks can be hard to see until you are right on them. A few years ago we hit a drift, unmarked that was left by a hut that was moved, and were airborn on the sled for quite some time, and came down hard. It cracked the front of the sled and I hurt my chin when my helmet hit. Yup, it hurt, but definitely could have been worse (right Terry and Fidel)!! I'm sure they were out fishing and having fun and tragedy struck. Edit: I would never wear a seatbelt while in a vehicle out on the ice either, for obvious reasons. Edited March 17, 2014 by Joey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 My thoughts go out to the families. This could easily happen to any of us. Those pressure cracks can be hard to see until you are right on them. A few years ago we hit a drift, unmarked that was left by a hut that was moved, and were airborn on the sled for quite some time, and came down hard. It cracked the front of the sled and I hurt my chin when my helmet hit. Yup, it hurt, but definitely could have been worse (right Terry and Fidel)!! I'm sure they were out fishing and having fun and tragedy struck. Edit: I would never wear a seatbelt while in a vehicle out on the ice either, for obvious reasons. Window down as well,doors unlocked. As said,very tragic,I use to run the ice myself in my truck years ago.Looking back,think I was lucky nothing happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 A few years ago we hit a drift, unmarked that was left by a hut that was moved, and were airborn on the sled for quite some time, and came down hard. It cracked the front of the sled and I hurt my chin when my helmet hit. Yup, it hurt, but definitely could have been worse (right Terry and Fidel)! oh yeah, just couldn't get his attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonidstalker Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Never really understood the reasoning behind ripping it down frozen lakes, especially ones we'll travelled. With huts, pressure cracks, drifts it's very dangerous. The police indicated the vehicle rolled numerous times ejecting the occupants. They must have been doing at least 80 and probably more. Head shaker for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Apparantely it was airborn for over 200 feet, gives you an idea of the speed involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Apparantely it was airborn for over 200 feet, gives you an idea of the speed involved. I had a feeling these weren't fishermen... Sounds like a few were in the bed as well. Edited March 18, 2014 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanD Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I wonder what the survivors of this have to say, as too what really happened? Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 They are saying on the report 200-300 feet. I am amazed at 300 feet. I recall at the indy a hotwheel truck jumper 300 feet. it was doing 90mph as in 145 km/h and used a 16 foot tall take off ramp. If it in fact did fly 300 feet that is just astounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 They are saying on the report 200-300 feet. I am amazed at 300 feet. I recall at the indy a hotwheel truck jumper 300 feet. it was doing 90mph as in 145 km/h and used a 16 foot tall take off ramp. If it in fact did fly 300 feet that is just astounding. When they say 300 feet they're likely referring to the point where it became airborne to the point where it came to rest after rolling and sliding. Like the jumper, they'd need to be traveling very fast and have a purpose built ramp to be airborne for so long and there definitely wouldn't be any survivors. It's unfortunate that 5 minds combined could not come to the conclusion that driving fast on unfamiliar ice might possibly be a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 From what I read it was actually airborn for 200-300 feet before landing as per the quote below. http://barrie.ctvnews.ca/investigators-learn-more-about-fatal-crash-on-lake-simcoe-1.1733536 “The vehicle was airborne for 200 to 300 feet and when it landed it rolled a couple of times,” says Brock Fire Chief Rick Harrison.Read more: http://barrie.ctvnews.ca/investigators-learn-more-about-fatal-crash-on-lake-simcoe-1.1733536#ixzz2wLKYj4EN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Really?? what the hell?? I really hate to say it, but if your travelling that fast on the ice in a vehicle, what do you expect to happen?? I don't even call that a tragic accident. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucktownAngler Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 whoa what the hell??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPoke Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 From what I read it was actually airborn for 200-300 feet before landing as per the quote below. http://barrie.ctvnews.ca/investigators-learn-more-about-fatal-crash-on-lake-simcoe-1.1733536 “The vehicle was airborne for 200 to 300 feet and when it landed it rolled a couple of times,” says Brock Fire Chief Rick Harrison. Read more: http://barrie.ctvnews.ca/investigators-learn-more-about-fatal-crash-on-lake-simcoe-1.1733536#ixzz2wLKYj4EN I don't doubt the quote but I do question his ability to estimate length. Think about the speed and size of a ramp needed to propel a loaded vehicle the length of a football field. No need to sensationalize a tragedy like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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