SuperDave Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I love the show dont really care for the ending but hey its his show. I would rather watch 25 minutes of his show than a lot of the other shows out there that only promote their products and really teach nothing. I agree. some of the best fishing info out there. Way too much fluff on WFN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Jesse Ventura? Really? The scholar or the wrester? hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ld17 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I like the show and I like that he is sharing in his faith in God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassassin Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 great show just like infisherman was back inthe day. If you font like the religious portion just change the channel. Nothing wron with religion as long as we dont appress people for not sharing the same belief, to each his/her own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Imagine if there was no religion at all. No more having to turn the other cheek, worrying about the other guy that wants to bump you off because you're an infidel, no more being told worshiping idols even though that one does pretty much the same thing. No more my idols better than your idol. Don't have to worry about heaven and hell because nobody invented it. And best of all, imagine half the holidays that could be cancelled and more work would be done. Unfortunately you'd have to take time off work to go fishing. Edited January 13, 2014 by Fisherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigger Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 It's one thing to be entertained by magic. It is another, to believe it. Lindners magic formula changed the angling world. Thats why i listen to every word he says. When it comes to fishing anyways. Used to be science and religion held hands. Now its a bunch of people telling the other that they're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Used to be science and religion held hands. Not lately they haven't. Not since the church ex-communicated Galileo for saying that the earth rotated around the sun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeontroller Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 More people have been killed in the name of religions, Christianity included, than for any other reason. I am not religious, I have have strong family values, good morals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 More people have been killed in the name of religions, Christianity included, than for any other reason. I am not religious, I have have strong family values, good morals... x2 I like the Lindner's show but I change the channel at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 More people have been killed in the name of religions, Christianity included, than for any other reason. I am not religious, I have have strong family values, good morals... x2 I like the Lindner's show but I change the channel at the end x3,I like his show as well.I like to believe I have good family values,but I do tend to listen to what he may preach.Agreed or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosebunk Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Never seen a full show. Probably catch the sermons more than the fish when surfing by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosquito Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 More people have been killed in the name of religions, Christianity included, than for any other reason. I am not religious, I have have strong family values, good morals... Actually Stalin and Mao alone and if you throw in Pol Pot historians have calculated that governments ran be atheist have far exceeded killing than all the religious wars etc. combined Not lately they haven't. Not since the church ex-communicated Galileo for saying that the earth rotated around the sun! Let's look at the accuracy of that comment, Galileo had no eidence to back up his heliocentric theory (Aristotle's arguements against heliocentricity could not be disproved with instruments at that time and most scientists of the time still help to geocentricity), he challenged the church orders and offended even his supporters and his "imprisonment" include a servant and every convenience he wanted. "Galileo’s friend Nicolini, Tuscan ambassador to the Vatican, sent regular reports to the court regarding affairs in Rome. Many of his letters dealt with the ongoing controversy surrounding Galileo. Nicolini revealed the circumstances surrounding Galileo’s "imprisonment" when he reported to the Tuscan king: "The pope told me that he had shown Galileo a favor never accorded to another" (letter dated Feb. 13, 1633); " . . . he has a servant and every convenience" (letter, April 16); and "n regard to the person of Galileo, he ought to be imprisoned for some time because he disobeyed the orders of 1616,..." . "Science brings men nearer to God." - Louis Pasteur Dr Robert Kaita (Principal Research Physicist, Princeton Plasma Lab.) "One needs the Bible to understand science and science to understand the Bible" "Science can purify religion from error and superstition. Religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes" - Pope John Paul II "If I had no other data than the early chapters of Genesis, some of the Psalms and other passages of Scripture, I would have arrived at essentially the same picture of the origin of the universe, as is indicated by the scientific data." Nobel Prize-winning physicist Arno Penzias (Big Bang Theorist) Alister McGrath (Phd Molecular Biophysics) says that it was the sheer complexity of the cell and science that led him to eventually become a Christian. "There is no incompatibility between science and religion... Science shows that God exists." - Prof. D. Barton, Nobel Prize Chemistry Seems to be alot of missrepesentation of reality on here sometimes, some should examine their statements for validity, they either don't know out of ignorance or just don't want to know. The ex-athiest Lee Strobel in an interview in the book "The Case for the Real Jesus" quoted Prof. Daniel B. Wallace (wrote the textbook on ancient Greek & Greek translation) saying "It's disturbing that when it comes to the Christian faith, people don't really want, or know how, to investigate the evidence" and it really seems to be true that many don't want to know. "Truth eludes us if we do not pursue it with constant attention." - Alexander Solzhenitsyn "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I know exactly how you feel. Every time I watch the 700 club and they have that fishing spot at the end I turn it off!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locnar Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 The theory of Evolution is indeed, a theory. It isn't complete yet, there are still questions that haven't been answered... and circumstances still unexplainable. But, I will take the incomplete theory of evolution over the supposedly, all-knowing theory of creation any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gino Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Actually Stalin and Mao alone and if you throw in Pol Pot historians have calculated that governments ran be atheist have far exceeded killing than all the religious wars etc. combined Let's look at the accuracy of that comment, Galileo had no eidence to back up his heliocentric theory (Aristotle's arguements against heliocentricity could not be disproved with instruments at that time and most scientists of the time still help to geocentricity), he challenged the church orders and offended even his supporters and his "imprisonment" include a servant and every convenience he wanted. "Galileo’s friend Nicolini, Tuscan ambassador to the Vatican, sent regular reports to the court regarding affairs in Rome. Many of his letters dealt with the ongoing controversy surrounding Galileo. Nicolini revealed the circumstances surrounding Galileo’s "imprisonment" when he reported to the Tuscan king: "The pope told me that he had shown Galileo a favor never accorded to another" (letter dated Feb. 13, 1633); " . . . he has a servant and every convenience" (letter, April 16); and "n regard to the person of Galileo, he ought to be imprisoned for some time because he disobeyed the orders of 1616,..." . "Science brings men nearer to God." - Louis Pasteur Dr Robert Kaita (Principal Research Physicist, Princeton Plasma Lab.) "One needs the Bible to understand science and science to understand the Bible" "Science can purify religion from error and superstition. Religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes" - Pope John Paul II "If I had no other data than the early chapters of Genesis, some of the Psalms and other passages of Scripture, I would have arrived at essentially the same picture of the origin of the universe, as is indicated by the scientific data." Nobel Prize-winning physicist Arno Penzias (Big Bang Theorist) Alister McGrath (Phd Molecular Biophysics) says that it was the sheer complexity of the cell and science that led him to eventually become a Christian. "There is no incompatibility between science and religion... Science shows that God exists." - Prof. D. Barton, Nobel Prize Chemistry Seems to be alot of missrepesentation of reality on here sometimes, some should examine their statements for validity, they either don't know out of ignorance or just don't want to know. The ex-athiest Lee Strobel in an interview in the book "The Case for the Real Jesus" quoted Prof. Daniel B. Wallace (wrote the textbook on ancient Greek & Greek translation) saying "It's disturbing that when it comes to the Christian faith, people don't really want, or know how, to investigate the evidence" and it really seems to be true that many don't want to know. "Truth eludes us if we do not pursue it with constant attention." - Alexander Solzhenitsyn "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Winston Churchill well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Let's look at the accuracy of that comment, Galileo had no eidence to back up his heliocentric theory " l say what??? You mean direct observation thru a telescope doesn't count??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hocus pocus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosquito Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) say what??? You mean direct observation thru a telescope doesn't count??? "He could not answer the strongest argument against it, which had been made nearly two thousand years earlier by Aristotle: If heliocentrism were true, then there would be observable parallax shifts in the stars’ positions as the earth moved in its orbit around the sun. However, given the technology of Galileo’s time, no such shifts in their positions could be observed. It would require more sensitive measuring equipment than was available in Galileo’s day to document the existence of these shifts, given the stars’ great distance. Until then, the available evidence suggested that the stars were fixed in their positions relative to the earth, and, thus, that the earth and the stars were not moving in space—only the sun, moon, and planets were." The Heliocentric theory required many more years and larger telescopes to allow for measurement of the plants motions. It wasn't until Hubble that the red shift was identifiable and this is what led to the Big Bang theory, which contravened with the constant state universe and even Einstein came out against the redshift at first until he actually sat down and reviewed it with Hubble. "If I had no other data than the early chapters of Genesis, some of the Psalms and other passages of Scripture, I would have arrived at essentially the same picture of the origin of the universe, as is indicated by the scientific data." Nobel Prize-winning physicist Arno Penzias (Big Bang Theorist) Edited January 14, 2014 by mosquito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 My cats breath smells like cat food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTHM Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I find it fascinating that the very phenomenon my minister spoke about in yesterday afternoons sermon is being demonstrated here: The gospel always has a visceral reaction of acceptance or rejection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skud Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 My cats breath smells like cat food. At ease Ralphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Fast and loose with science, fast and loose with history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT) If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT) When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT) When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB) Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT) Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan. The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse." Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes. They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho. Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves. As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you. If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. 2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.' Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB "When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion." Great book. Worship it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I will never be a slave to these books and to anyone who suggests that I should, I have two words for you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAW Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) I saw this on OFC (of all places) a few years back. On a thread, just minutes before it was locked down... Something that stuck with me. "If you are hungry, I will offer you food If you are thirsty, I will offer you water If you are Cold, I will offer you warmth If you are in need, ask and I will give If you are in trouble, ask and I will help I do not do these things in hopes of being rewarded, or in fear of being punished. I do these things because I know them to be right. I set my own standards, and I alone enforce them." Kind of sums up how a feel about being a slave to religion. I don't need a book to tell me to be a good person, to have morals, and family values. Edited January 14, 2014 by N.A.W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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