Bill Shearer Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Just saw this on FB Home Native Issues MainStream Media Offenses OFAH Opinion MNR Press Releases About This Site HomeNative IssuesMainStream MediaOffensesOFAHOpinionMNR Press ReleasesAbout This Site- Contact Us!Navigation Service Fee Will Support Fish and Wildlife Management MNR Watch November 11, 2014 MNR Press Releases Beginning in December 2014, the Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry will introduce a $2 service fee to directly support fish and wildlife management across Ontario. All fees will be invested through the Fish and Wildlife Special Purpose Account. Fish and wildlife programs improve fishing and hunting in Ontario through licensing, enforcement, scientific research and fish stocking. The service fee will be applied to: Outdoors Cards. Hunting and fishing licences. Draws for which a fee is charged. The service fee will be charged across all points of purchase, including: Online. By phone. In-person at a ServiceOntario counter or private licence issuer. Quick Facts The Fish and Wildlife Special Purpose Account currently supports approximately two-thirds of fishing and hunting opportunities in Ontario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) personally a 2 dollar fee means nothing. If someone literally complains about this but then goes and buys a 400 dollar fishing rod, they should be slapped. Personally i fees for fishing were much higher to deter poaching and overfishing. I am all for introducing the sport to as many people as possible, however there are too many "catch and kill" fishermen out there. Edited November 13, 2014 by AKRISONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostAnotherOne Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 That's it. I'm never fishing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 When the fishing licence was introduced almost 30 years ago, every cent collected was to support fisheries management in Ontario . So WTH is this 2 bucks for?? http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/thestar/doc/435443542.html?FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=May%2007,%201986&author=John%20Power&pub=Toronto%20Star&edition=&startpage=&desc=Anglers%20welcome%20resident%20licence%20to%20help%20fisheries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostAnotherOne Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 This 2 bucks will increase every year. They just need a starting point. I will pay $500 a year to fish if I had to and the ministry knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Shearer Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 Maybe the Liberals had this in the works for many months. Maybe they didn't. But between the new charges for a Seniors license, and the new $2 "on top of everything tax". This really is a bunch of crap. Sure, it's only $2. An extra large Timmies. etc, etc. But it never stops. AND WE DON"T GET ANY THING FOR IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) When the fishing licence was introduced almost 30 years ago, every cent collected was to support fisheries management in Ontario . So WTH is this 2 bucks for?? http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/thestar/doc/435443542.html?FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=May%2007,%201986&author=John%20Power&pub=Toronto%20Star&edition=&startpage=&desc=Anglers%20welcome%20resident%20licence%20to%20help%20fisheries Yes it was promised and has been done. What the crooks didn't tell the public was it was replacing current funding with the license fees. So all the the original funding went elsewhere in the gubmint and the license $$$$ taken in are less than the $$$$ they took away. When introduced all of us anglers thought "GREAT" more $$$ for the MNR "I'm in!!" But instead of the license $$$ being added to the then current budget it replaced it. Edited November 13, 2014 by DRIFTER_016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 $2.00, $2.00, $2.00! There never seems to be an end to the amount of user fees we get charged. "User Fee" is just another way of applying a tax on top of a cost so you can tax the extra $2.00. I guess they have to do something to replace the tax revenu they aren't collecting since gas prices are dropping and more people are quitting smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 How did they come to the $2 amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 What's the charge for fishing without a licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 What's the charge for fishing without a licence. I don't know. I have never been caught!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I finally became a senior and got to fish for free, now they want to start charging me to fish again and if that isn't enough, they want even more $$$$. Oh well, I spose they'll just raise my pension to offset the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cram Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'd pay double the license fee if it meant leaving the seniors alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCTFisher9120 Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Doesn't bother me. Guys who hunt deer pay almost $50 for there tag alone. My fishing license is under $30 or around there for the year. I just wish we got more for paying more. It seems we get less for paying more in todays world. Edited November 13, 2014 by MikeTheBassFisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'm always happy to give the government more of my money to spend. They're so much better at it than I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBCregal Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 is that $2 per license you buy? fishing, small game, turkey, deer, moose...that puts me up at least $10 per yr, $12 on years i have to renew my outdoors card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 The way I read it Dunner.. $2 fee on the card.. $2 fee on the licence(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 First of all I have long been a proponent of a standard cost for fishing licences - no breaks for conservation licences OR seniors. Sorry to those more "experienced" than I. This is coming from a guy who voluntarly used to buy a sport licence when a conservation would have done even through Uni when some years I didnt even fish. I support that if all the funds stay within the MNR for fishing related costs and ENFORCEMENT of laws and regulations. Many years ago the MNR got away from enforcement and into management. How many threads on this board are people bellyaching about the LACK of enforcement of the regs? This fee is a step in the right direction. What do you "get" for it - you get to fish some of the best freshwater in the World. I dont want Ontario to wind up like the UK where you have to pay thousands a year to private clubs to fish carp. What if someone said the two bucks was going directly to fight Asian Carp or to hire a few new COs to enforce the regs? Thesefunds will be staying in the MNR coffers and that is a huge step forward. Fishing in Ontario to me is worth a heck of a lot more than what I pay for my card ans sport license even with a couple more dollars tacked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappieperchhunter Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Fishing in Ontario to me is worth a heck of a lot more than what I pay for my card ans sport license even with a couple more dollars tacked on. X2. I don't think anyone likes extra fee's. However I have always felt fishing is about the best bang for my buck of all my recreational choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxie Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 When the fishing licence was introduced almost 30 years ago, every cent collected was to support fisheries management in Ontario . So WTH is this 2 bucks for?? http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/thestar/doc/435443542.html?FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=May%2007,%201986&author=John%20Power&pub=Toronto%20Star&edition=&startpage=&desc=Anglers%20welcome%20resident%20licence%20to%20help%20fisheries lieberals are just getting warmed up boys and girls. Cupboard is bare so these fees will be on everything everywhere and believe you me the 2 bucks in this case ain't going to anything related to angling and hunting and anyone that believes that, well.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry2Rs Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Lew; I don't mind paying a $2.00 fee, if it helps. However, as a seniors I / we don't need a card, or licence, so there doesn't appear to me that there is any place for the MNR to apply their $2.00 fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Lew; I don't mind paying a $2.00 fee, if it helps. However, as a seniors I / we don't need a card, or licence, so there doesn't appear to me that there is any place for the MNR to apply their $2.00 fee. note to garry2rs they also want to make seniors pay for a card and license so it will be 38 bucks more for you ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Lew; I don't mind paying a $2.00 fee, if it helps. However, as a seniors I / we don't need a card, or licence, so there doesn't appear to me that there is any place for the MNR to apply their $2.00 fee. If rumours are true; that is about to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Lew; I don't mind paying a $2.00 fee, if it helps. However, as a seniors I / we don't need a card, or licence, so there doesn't appear to me that there is any place for the MNR to apply their $2.00 fee. As of 2016. It's proposed seniors pay $23.11 per year for a Sport Fishing License plus $9.36 for and Outdoors Card. So they will have the place to apply it. Edited November 14, 2014 by Old Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 For those interested in understanding the MNR rationale for increasing fees, see the discussion paper available at http://apps.mnr.gov.on.ca/public/fil...rod_110525.pdfThe fees for all resident and non-resident angling and hunting licences and permits go into a Special Purpose Account (SPA)Fees for Ontario resident angling and hunting licences and permits constitute 61% of the SPAFees for non-resident angling and hunting licences and permits constitute 33% of the SPAThe Ministry of Natural Resources fish and wildlife program costs 100 million annually. Unfortunately, the SPA only cover 67% of that annual cost. So the MNR is looking for ways to increase revenues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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