Rizzo Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 I was surprised to see Roman Baber get ousted for his public letter. Are people not permitted to share their beliefs anymore? Wouldn't the better thing be to prove Baber wrong than to turf him? Figured Ford would reprimand the guy for not following the 'company line' but to boot him over a contrary opinion? 1
aplumma Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 If this goes political it will be locked. Art
jonasdry Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) When the boss says something, right or wrong, and you publically go against them... well ya... you gonna get chitcanned. I know this is a politically based thing, but this really is a lesson for all of life. Know how far you can stick your neck out before you get it chopped off. Edited January 15, 2021 by jonasdry 1
TJQ Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 Well hes part of the Conservative caucus.. so no free speech allowed.. lol.. (not that theres any free speech in any of the other caucuses either) Covid is changing everything.. even ice fishing.. I think I saw a letter from the OFAH telling people not to bother asking about ice fishing restrictions, asd they just didnt know lol.
410001661 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 Funny that come election time they talk of voting for the individual MPP not the party but as soon as they are in office and they do not tow the party line they get whacked. He should have just went to the Caribbean with Rod Phillips and called it a day.
Norpiker Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 Don Cherry was fired for using the word "You" and somebody is surprised the anti-lockdown crap that guy spewed is fired?? 3
LefroyFisherman Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Rizzo said: I was surprised to see Roman Baber get ousted for his public letter. Are people not permitted to share their beliefs anymore? Wouldn't the better thing be to prove Baber wrong than to turf him? Figured Ford would reprimand the guy for not following the 'company line' but to boot him over a contrary opinion? Agreed, scary... you cant dare have another viewpoint on this whole thing, in my opinion the lockdown effects are just as bad as covid or worse in the long term... A lot of all of this doesn't make any sense and your wrong it seems if you question it. 2
Norpiker Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 I guess it's ok if an administrator makes a political comment here though😉 1
Rizzo Posted January 15, 2021 Author Report Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, jonasdry said: When the boss says something, right or wrong, and you publically go against them... well ya... you gonna get chitcanned. I know this is a politically based thing, but this really is a lesson for all of life. Know how far you can stick your neck out before you get it chopped off. So I guess this is the question. Is Ford his boss? Or are the people his boss? I know many people feel the points Baber made are bang on. If many people feel this way why can that viewpoint not be expressed? 1
TJQ Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 My comment wasn't political.. neither right nor left.. I'm not pushing an agenda.. its was an observation... He has freedom of speech.. he didn't get unelected, he can say whatever he wants. As a matter of fact his freedom of speech.. just got alot free-er. He got removed from the party.. He's still an MPP, that's an internal party issue.. not an overtly political one. Both parties have been outsing people for years.. especially if they have a mandate and dont need them. On an side.. Id rather not talk about politics here.. but Rizzo is a long long time member.,. and I like him lol... and Rizzo.. his constituents are his boss... 2 1
misfish Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 40 minutes ago, Norpiker said: I guess it's ok if an administrator makes a political comment here though😉 You got it wrong, he is the BOSS. He can fire yer ass . LMAO 2 2
Rizzo Posted January 15, 2021 Author Report Posted January 15, 2021 Ya my bad for posting something political. I generally don't post this kind of stuff so not up to speed on forum policies. I do remember agreeing to them at one point...but the memory isn't what it used to be. Not offended if this needs to be removed now or at some point
aplumma Posted January 15, 2021 Report Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Norpiker said: I guess it's ok if an administrator makes a political comment here though😉 Let me clue you in we do not have moderators or Admin. we are the owners of the site. Art 4
Norpiker Posted January 16, 2021 Report Posted January 16, 2021 Isn't it ironic that I am probably going to get banned for making a observation in a thread about free speech Apparently i'm wrong for expressing free speech and can get fired too That's exactly the point I was trying to make with the Don Cherry comparison All clued in now 1
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Posted January 16, 2021 He probably would still have a job if he had made his views known privately. But when you publish your views that are contrary to the boss and health authority for all to see, what do you think is going to happen? 1
lew Posted January 16, 2021 Report Posted January 16, 2021 10 hours ago, aplumma said: Let me clue you in we do not have moderators or Admin. Art Yet under your avatar picture it says Administrator twice and if you click on the button right at your picture it says your a Moderator, so I'm sure that's where the confusion came from. 2
dave524 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Posted January 16, 2021 No different than here , if you want to be a member follow the rules. 1
Rizzo Posted January 16, 2021 Author Report Posted January 16, 2021 7 hours ago, DRIFTER_016 said: He probably would still have a job if he had made his views known privately. But when you publish your views that are contrary to the boss and health authority for all to see, what do you think is going to happen? See and I was thinking these viewpoints are probably being expressed privately already. But if they are continually suppressed, never given the light of day, that leads to an "open letter" 1
akaShag Posted January 16, 2021 Report Posted January 16, 2021 18 hours ago, TJQ said: I think I saw a letter from the OFAH telling people not to bother asking about ice fishing restrictions OFAH have issued a number of "press releases" online to their membership, and the first one was as clear as mud. The last one basically said, make your own decisions based on your local circumstances, which makes sense. OFAH cannot possibly know about all of the local rules across the province, and they obviously don't want to be advising folks to do things that their local health authority (or whatever) has deemed unacceptable. That being said, the province has specifically OK'ed Ice fishing (and cross-country skiing, dog-sledding, etc) Doug
John Bacon Posted January 16, 2021 Report Posted January 16, 2021 Free speech means that he doesn't go to jail for saying it. It doesn't mean that he still gets to be a member of the caucus. 3 1
misfish Posted January 16, 2021 Report Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Norpiker said: Isn't it ironic that I am probably going to get banned for making a observation in a thread about free speech Apparently i'm wrong for expressing free speech and can get fired too That's exactly the point I was trying to make with the Don Cherry comparison All clued in now Some here get taken serious,some well, just have tic skin and duck feathers bye . 👍 Edited January 16, 2021 by misfish 1
TJQ Posted January 16, 2021 Report Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, John Bacon said: Free speech means that he doesn't go to jail for saying it. It doesn't mean that he still gets to be a member of the caucus. Thats what i was trying to say.. but im no wordsmith lol 1 1
aplumma Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 8:56 PM, Norpiker said: Isn't it ironic that I am probably going to get banned for making a observation in a thread about free speech Apparently i'm wrong for expressing free speech and can get fired too That's exactly the point I was trying to make with the Don Cherry comparison All clued in now You can have all of the free speech you want as long as they do not break the rules of this forum. This is a private club that you have asked to join with that in mind we ask that you follow our rules. if you can't follow them then you may go elsewere where the rules do not apply. Art
aplumma Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 5:55 AM, lew said: Yet under your avatar picture it says Administrator twice and if you click on the button right at your picture it says your a Moderator, so I'm sure that's where the confusion came from. Good point Lew Some parts of the program are templates that do not allow us to change them. Art
porkpie Posted January 18, 2021 Report Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) On 1/16/2021 at 8:57 AM, Rizzo said: See and I was thinking these viewpoints are probably being expressed privately already. But if they are continually suppressed, never given the light of day, that leads to an "open letter" They probably are even at the cabinet level. They certainly are privately. A lot of people feel the same way that politician does, including just about everyone I know, friends, neighbours a lot of colleagues etc. Not much airplay is being given to anything other than the lockdown theory. It’s clear by the roads alone that there is not a lot of buyin, but hey what do I know. Edited January 18, 2021 by porkpie
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