dave524 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 A little less off topic, everyone at the debate seemed to focus on attacking Maxine Bernier. That tells me they saw him as the biggest threat on the stage. I'm sure they'll be attacking O'leary at the next one. Personally Bernier is my current best of the litter in this brood.
Dutch01 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 Personally Bernier is my current best of the litter in this brood. I don't know enough about him myself, but he seems to be one of the few serious contenders. There are just too many candidates right now, they need to whittle it down a bit.
GBW Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 Thanks dude. I'm not sure that's the consensus opinion but I'm not trying to win friends here. Just me being me. I'm one of those with you... Like Rick..
GBW Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 I'm sure we're not the only three At many times we are all alone (metaphorically speaking) but here you're right.
John Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 Actually what we need and they have found in the States is someone is who the dog and not the tail. For far too long, we have had the tail wagging the dog and that is what has created Trump and will likely help O'Leary as well. HH What Joe says...
SirCranksalot Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 A little less off topic, everyone at the debate seemed to focus on attacking Maxine Bernier. That tells me they saw him as the biggest threat on the stage. I'm sure they'll be attacking O'leary at the next one. They were playing on Bernier's home ice! If the debate was outside Quebec the dynamics would have been different. How will O'leary get any votes from Francophones? Would you vote for somebody who doesn't speak English?
Big Cliff Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Posted January 18, 2017 I would say it means he's screwed over a lot of people and been sued on a regular. If getting rich by ripping people off is a guy you want running the country, I can't agree with you there Cliff. Read the article, see what Mattel had to say about him after losing billions dealing with him. You don't turn thousands into hundreds of millions by making everyone happy! As far as ripping people off; I feel I'm getting ripped off every time I get a pay cheque and I look at what our government takes from me.
Dutch01 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 You don't turn thousands into hundreds of millions by making everyone happy! As far as ripping people off; I feel I'm getting ripped off every time I get a pay cheque and I look at what our government takes from me. Cliff, If you have honestly evaluated O'Leary's position on the issues and decided he stands for what you stand for, then vote for him with my blessing (not that you need it, just saying).
Fisherman Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 10 out of 34 submissions, I wish we could detach the GTA from the rest of the province and a lot of us would be happy. Oh ya, and if O'Leary gets the PC leadership, I'll definitely vote for him.
dave524 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 10 out of 34 submissions, I wish we could detach the GTA from the rest of the province and a lot of us would be happy. Oh ya, and if O'Leary gets the PC leadership, I'll definitely vote for him. you got that right, look at a map of the 2014 election results, the half dozen ridings of the far north went Dipper except for the Nipigon riding, the more populous area south of the French Mattawa River is Tory blue , you have to get into the postage stamp sized , high density ridings of Toronto to see the bulk of the Liberal support, the province is Ontario is governed by Trawna
Hoppy Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 Yeah but the GTA pays the piper. Our taxes would more than double without them.
dave524 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 Yeah but the GTA pays the piper. Our taxes would more than double without them. More like sucks the hind teat , a lot of the services available to Trawna aren't available rurally.
woodenboater Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) If the CPC want to sit in the big chair, they need Quebec and that means they need Bernier. Leitch is scaring people with her values talk and O'Leary is not as smart as he makes out. See previous Globe and Mail link or this updated one. Bombast works on tv but maybe less so in the real world. I'd take Raitt over O'Leary 24/7/365 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/streetwise/hot-air-the-truth-about-kevin-olearys-business-history/article33655534/ Edited January 19, 2017 by woodenboater
SirCranksalot Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 From what I read, Michael Chong seems to be the most reasonable choice.
John Bacon Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 More like sucks the hind teat , a lot of the services available to Trawna aren't available rurally. That's mostly because it is more efficient to provide services in densely populated areas than it is in sparsely populated areas.
Squid Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 Seriously, if a member starts to bash trump and american politics the thread gets shut down. Not so much with the candian politics. I get enough garbage about the butthat O'leary from regular news and I sure as you know what do not need to read trash on OFC regarding Canadian politics., Come on Art where is your axe???
RHK Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 As Trump will find out, and possibly O'Leary, running a business and a country are 2 different things. In a business people are just another number on the spread sheet to do with what you may to meet the bottom line and keep the share holders happy. Not so much when you run a country, province, or state, the people are a share holder. I'm not a NDP'er, Liberal or a Con, just a human who wants a descent life, and is tired of getting screwed over so someone else can make another buck, and is very thankful I'm a Canadian and not living in what may turn into an ugly mess south of the boarder.
Sterling Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 As Trump will find out, and possibly O'Leary, running a business and a country are 2 different things. In a business people are just another number on the spread sheet to do with what you may to meet the bottom line and keep the share holders happy. Not so much when you run a country, province, or state, the people are a share holder. I'm not a NDP'er, Liberal or a Con, just a human who wants a descent life, and is tired of getting screwed over so someone else can make another buck, and is very thankful I'm a Canadian and not living in what may turn into an ugly mess south of the boarder. I can sympathize with that, however sometimes I feel like I'm being screwed because the country isn't run like a business. Certain parts of it, at least, can't be run as-is (energy sector for example). So a bit of both can't hurt. Unfortunately it'll always be one extreme or the other.
leaf4 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 When it involves public money, I'm all for running as a business... Stores don't stay open when they owe billions of dollars
Hoppy Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 Problem is the energy sector is run like a business. Oil is cheap 54 are barrel or so, gas is overpriced over a dollar a litre Multinational corporations make billions, Canadian public get screwed. Business means making money off you.
Hoppy Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 So your for straight up anarchy. No roads, hospitals, airports, police nothing just lower taxes.
Dara Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 We won't see world peace with people like Trump and O'Leary running things
Dutch01 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) A business has one priority, profit. A government should have the well being of its citizens as it's top priority. I'm not saying our current government is doing a good job one way or the other. I just saying I don't want a government that decides people are expendable because profit is down, which is what a business would do. Edited January 19, 2017 by Dutch01
Headhunter Posted January 19, 2017 Report Posted January 19, 2017 A governments job is to create and maintain an environment where business can succeed and therefore provide opportunities to it's constituents. As soon as it starts to single out individuals and special interest groups ahead of it prime mandate, everyone loses. HH
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