James77 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 Hi guys, Only ever used wire leaders throughout my life. Thinking of trying a Fluoro leader this weekend for some Walters. My question: Do you use fluorocarbon line, or the specific fluorocarbon leader material? I use 30# PP as my main line, and will be tying onto that. Thanks James
kickingfrog Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 I always use leader material. I figure the mix they use to make mainline fluoro more manageable on the spool isn't what I need for a leader. I don't go through enough to worry about the cost difference. I use anything from 6lb to 12lb (mostly 10lb) test for jigging but often for casting or trolling cranks I don't bother with any leader. I'm using the leader more for stealth rather then pike bite-offs.
Raf Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 leader material as well. i use 10, 50 and 150 lb seaguar i havent found much use for fluoro line.
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 I generally use Seaguar Blue Label flouro leader material. It's a little more $$$ but is tough as nails. I use 40# on my trolling outfits I use for lakers and pike. http://www.seaguar.com/saltwater/fluorocarbon.html For lighter lines I use Sunline FC Super Sniper as it comes in bigger spools and really works quite well for me. I use a lot of the 8# when fishing steelhead and trout in rivers and it works great. http://www.sunlineamerica.com/super-fc-sniper/
porkpie Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 I've been using regular seaguar yellow package as leader material for years. Just way more economical than the leader spools. I've never had an issue. I recently have been using the seaguar salmon trout steelhead 10lb leader for pickerel, and it's great, but the only reason I bought it was because it came in 100yd spools for a good price. I go through a crap ton of leader throughout the year, so savings is an issue for me. Sunline is also good stuff. I really like the 7lb test for bows.
BillM Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 I usually use the same stuff I use steelheading as I do from the boat pretty much everything. Phantom in 5.6, 6.0, 7.1
moxie Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 Have used 10-12 lb Vanish for years but i doubt it makes much of a diff for the few feet per rod.
umKthxbye Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) I use floro leaders, I use 50# suffix 832 braid and use a matching diameter leader, so 15-20# floro leader. I think I'm using trilene right now. It's been pretty strong for me and does the job, haven't had any breaks. Vanish is the name that I use, mostly bass and pike fishing. I don't like fluro fully spooled on my rod but as leaders its great. Edited May 7, 2015 by zer0ish
Sinker Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 How are you fishing the walleyes? That will dictate what leader to use, if any. S.
James77 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Posted May 7, 2015 Thanks for all the input guys, my main question is really do i buy fluoro line or fluoro leader material? I'm going to be casting Rapala's at night and will be jigging from a boat in the daytime. Thanks James
porkpie Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) For my money, if you buy a quality fluoro line, it makes zero difference if you use it for leader material. I've tested that on countless fish. When I can buy a 200 yard spool for just a bit more than a little spool of leader material, I'm buying the bulk spool every time. It's your cash, buy what you prefer. Me I like to save a few buck when there is no real performance difference to me. Both sunline and seaguar yellow box work great as leader line. Abrazx is pretty much junk, even though they market it as being more abrasion resistant. For pickerel, I use Fluoro every time I run a braid rod. With mono rods I don't bother. If you need the reassurance then buy the seaguar STS 10LB. It's cheap and it's good. Good luck. Edited May 8, 2015 by porkpie
captpierre Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 10 lb fluoro for my walleye leaders. Often wonder. If it's invisible, could go thicker. Not sure so invisible.
Sinker Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 I dont use fluoro for anything except musky/pike leaders. I just cant justify the price. Berkely Trilene XT or XL for all my leaders, and regular power pro braid. Jigging I use 8lb XT, casting raps 10lb, maybe 12lb if thats what I have rigged. At night I use a snap to my braid and thats it for raps.... Keep it simple. Simple still works, believe me. S.
Joeytier Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 Yep, I run Trilene XL for my leaders. I buy 4 lb fluoro leader material for finesse situations but otherwise I don't bother with it.
manitoubass2 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 I rarely use a leader for walleye. Braid is more then enough unless your fishing zebra muscle areas
ecmilley Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 I use seagar blue pak leader material in 8-12lb test and vanish leader material in 20lb test . Use it more for zebra defence on most rods. Connect it to 15-60 lb power pro with a blood knot. Smallest knot i know how to tie
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 I use seagar blue pak leader material in 8-12lb test and vanish leader material in 20lb test . Use it more for zebra defence on most rods. Connect it to 15-60 lb power pro with a blood knot. Smallest knot i know how to tie If you are looking for an even smaller knot for heavier leaders try this one out. For light leaders I use a back to back UNI knot.
Beans Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) For carp fishing, I use 12 lb. flouro line for tying my hair rigs...this is then tied on to 17 lb. Trilene XL mono via a ball bearing swivel... The main reason is if I get a break-off it will usually be the hair rig and all I lose is my hook and not my $3 spring or method feeder... Rarely do I tie a hair rig longer than 12 inches and seeing as a carp's teeth (grinders) are back in their throat getting bit-off is not an issue so using expensive flouro leader material would be a waste...if I was fishing for toothy critters then I would use flouro leader material... Edited May 8, 2015 by Beans
Garnet Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 For Steelheading I use Phantom 4.4 and 5.6. For snapping bucktails I use 20lb Bass Pro Shop XPS. I did my own study and found a trible surgeon knot and XPS would last for a full day and a few hours the next morning. The knot would stand up put the flouro would break about 2 cm below the knot. XPS hasn't let me down put with so many new lines the study should be done again.
AKRISONER Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) jigging walleye, ive got a 10 inch length of of 20lb fluro tied to the jig, i then tie that to the fluro using 20lb xxxsmall raven micro swivel...this presentation was a game changer for me over everyone else in the boat last fall, coulda been luck, but it seems to be working for me a lot better than not running a leader like in previous years. Coulda went lighter on the fluro but i fish a river with a lot of snags everywhere, I need to still be able to get the jig out from the rocks when dead sticking, plus I never get bit off. Edited May 8, 2015 by AKRISONER
msp Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 for pike fishing I use 100# seagar blue label premium as well as 40 titanium tieable for bass and walleye finesse presentations I use seagar 10- 12 #. ( only for dragging tubes and grubs ) For trout I like raven 5.6 and 3.4 # Back to back uni knot and Albright knot
esoxansteel Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 Finese fishing walleyes 10 to 15 pound braid, and 8 pound floro leader as a rule but will bump to 10 if I can, for rip jigging 20 pound braid usually no floro leader as its an instinct reaction, cranks I will use a 10 pound floro leader on a braid main
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