Freshtrax Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 This thread is getting funny. My 2010 f150 super crew 4.6 3v gets 14-15 with grabber at2 tires on it ... I drive it fairly hard I could do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 14-15 with only a v6 eh. would have thought better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecmilley Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Looks like Toyota will be getting the same motor for the Titan. thats what i hear 2015 nissan and 2016 tundra getting it. Hope they upgrade there diffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 We get so hung up on numbers when we speak of fuel consumption. I actually heard a talking head on a Motoring 2015 episode today say that the difference between 7.5 L /100K and 7.1L/100K is substantial, really?? 0.4 liters per 100K or 400ml of gas per 62 miles. They better go out and buy a new boat with the savings. Fuel consumption is important but I'm not getting hung up on it. When I want my V8 and it's 300 HP merging onto the 403 while towing a ton of boat I want it and I want it now and I don't care what it costs if I can avoid a collision with a wanna be SUV with a 6 cylinder diesel or gas sewing machine. I'll pay the extra penny or so a mile for my V8. Wow 1 zip Canada, 23 seconds in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 We get so hung up on numbers when we speak of fuel consumption. I actually heard a talking head on a Motoring 2015 episode today say that the difference between 7.5 L /100K and 7.1L/100K is substantial, really?? 0.4 liters per 100K or 400ml of gas per 62 miles. They better go out and buy a new boat with the savings. Fuel consumption is important but I'm not getting hung up on it. When I want my V8 and it's 300 HP merging onto the 403 while towing a ton of boat I want it and I want it now and I don't care what it costs if I can avoid a collision with a wanna be SUV with a 6 cylinder diesel or gas sewing machine. I'll pay the extra penny or so a mile for my V8. Wow 1 zip Canada, 23 seconds in. Well not pointing fingers, but merging is an art and there's a lot of eraser drivers out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshtrax Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 14-15 with only a v6 eh. would have thought better. Who me? It's a v8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) We get so hung up on numbers when we speak of fuel consumption. I actually heard a talking head on a Motoring 2015 episode today say that the difference between 7.5 L /100K and 7.1L/100K is substantial, really?? 0.4 liters per 100K or 400ml of gas per 62 miles. They better go out and buy a new boat with the savings. Fuel consumption is important but I'm not getting hung up on it. When I want my V8 and it's 300 HP merging onto the 403 while towing a ton of boat I want it and I want it now and I don't care what it costs if I can avoid a collision with a wanna be SUV with a 6 cylinder diesel or gas sewing machine. I'll pay the extra penny or so a mile for my V8. Wow 1 zip Canada, 23 seconds in. I dont disagree with a lot of what you said.. but funny thing about getting up to speed and merging, it's torque (along with gearing) that does it, and the v6 turbo diesel has more of it, across a lower and broader rpm range than the v8 hemi. Edited January 6, 2015 by Raf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecmilley Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 400hpand 400lbft of torque will always out accelerate 240hoand 420lbtq regardless what fuel is being burned i drive both everyday and handsdown hemi has waynmore get up and go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) maybe but you gotta rev the snot out of that sowing machine. the previous gen gc diesel was quicker up to about 35 mph out of the hole than the v8. then the v8 took over. Edited January 6, 2015 by Raf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 straying off topic but v6 turbos are more than capable vs their v8 counterparts in the drag race game. remember the 80s grand national? it ran the 1/4 mile quicker than v8s of that time. cubes are nice but there's more than one way to make power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecmilley Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 The eagle series hemi also a different animal then its earlier version. But with all the technology out there today especially transmission you can build anything to work well. Rumours of a new dakota coming deisel in that wouldnbe intresting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 The eagle series hemi also a different animal then its earlier version. But with all the technology out there today especially transmission you can build anything to work well. Rumours of a new dakota coming deisel in that wouldnbe intresting yup more options and improved tech whether it's gas, diesel or electric is never a bad thing.. let the consumer decide what suits him/her best. chrysler's propably reacting to gm's announcement of the diesel in the canyon/colorado. competition is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Who me? It's a v8. I didn't know there was a 4.6 v8. that is a tiny v8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Come hook your TDI to my boat and launch it anytime. TDI is great for long hauls with no gear or passengers, but your not towing or hauling gear with one....right? Thats what I thought. S. My buddy used to own a Passat TDI and towed/launched a pair of seadoos and also towed an enclosed 4X8 trailer with no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Hope they upgrade there diffs Who Nissan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I didn't know there was a 4.6 v8. that is a tiny v8. The Tundra also had a 4.6 V8 version in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecmilley Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Who Nissan? Neither company has very robust diffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshtrax Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 14-15 with only a v6 eh. would have thought better. Meh ... 292 hp 320 torque does the trick for me if I towed everyday I would rather have the bigger motor. It's pretty much the same motor that came in a mustang with a different tune from what I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecmilley Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Lol not really that long ago a 6.2 lt deisel only had 140hp andna 5.7 chev was 185 and still managed to tow boats around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scugpg Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 400hpand 400lbft of torque will always out accelerate 240hoand 420lbtq regardless what fuel is being burned i drive both everyday and handsdown hemi has waynmore get up and go From test driving both versions of the Jeep I can't disagree either but it's not night and day. However the diesel feels more powerful in everyday driving due to the 400lbft of torque at low rpms. Hemi is faster if you tromp on it but imagine it gets really thirsty. Isn't the 0-60 times only about a second apart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Wow, doods take this very seriously! Carry on, I think I'm learning something??? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch4113 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 The Hemi is faster - no question. I test drove both before I bought. But it is really difficult to compare the 2, as the feel is different. The diesel feels like an unstoppable force, particularly when you catch it right. The Hemi is a beast. For that matter the Ecoboost is blast to drive to. The only thing that would make the Diesel better is a few more HP. Like the way it was described to me - Torque = Power -> HP = how fast the power is generated. If the Diesel had maybe 15 to 20 more HP ---- whoo baby. But I think the main point now - is at least there is an option, which did not exist before. It is high time it was done - and all things being equal, RAM did an excellent job - in the short term at least. Time will tell...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Art, I have an old 04 Cummins and regularly get 11 -12 L/100km, that's with a truck that probably weights over a 100 more than yours. You claim to get 16.8 L/100km with a 6000lb trailer at 65-85 mpg? One of my sons has a '13 Ecoguzzle, towing a 17' all aluminum enclosed trailer with 2 snowmobiles, we averaged between 22-28L/100km at no more than 70mph. The big difference is that I am pulling a custom covered bassboat and a covered bed so my wind resistance is a lot less. On my meter it shows 14 MPG if my googled converter is correct . It is 960 miles from my house to the Nip and it is 13 hours deducting stops gives me an average speed of 73 mph. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I plan on buying a new diesel in 2-3 years. But, until then I will have to stick with my "old and inefficient" 2007 Ram quad cab w/ Hemi that averages 14 l / 100 kms when empty, which is similar or better than what many new trucks get. K&N intake Magnaflow cat back exhaust Removed all extra unnecessary weight Soft tonneau cover Removed engine fan Mashing the peddle = bye bye EcoBoost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outllaw Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 from having both im totally with cummins. when ya gotta load on and are in hills nothing seems to slow up the weasel.. the more ya give them the more they want.. my issue was injector pumps. costly when out of warranty. 5 g,s takes the thrill outa blowin black smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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