grt1 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Last summer the mnr caught a guy at the neighbours tourist camp and I have been trying to find out the results of his case. Finally I went to the mnr office in town and asked what the outcome was. the secretary asked the c.o. and emailed me the result. the tourist (who had been coming here for years) had 28 walleye. that was 20 over his and his wife's limit. the fine was 2500 dollars and 1 year suspension on fishing in Ontario. but his real cost was, he sold his boat (that he just bought 2 weeks prior to coming) to the marina in town. and they packed up and left Canada vowing never to return. His loss is our gain
DRIFTER_016 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 but his real cost was, he sold his boat (that he just bought 2 weeks prior to coming) to the marina in town. and they packed up and left Canada vowing never to return. I guess he will just go break the fisheries laws somewhere else now. Maybe somewhere like the USA where they don't care about their resources.
dracokaos Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Good on him! absolutely no excuse for that kind of blatant disregard of the conservation laws!
Raf Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 a win all around!! unless you ask the 20 walleye.
Rod Caster Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 I hope he meant Canada, and won't just go to another province.
woodenboater Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 why would he sell his boat ? not enough cash for the fine ? but yeah, good he got hammered hard.
Tootsie II Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 I hope the MNR sends his name to the Canadian Border Service so that if he enters any other province, they can notify the natural resources agency in that province.
OhioFisherman Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 I never understood the mentality behind getting caught breaking the law and blaming someone else. It sounds like Canada would be much better off with out him as a guest.
Stoty Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 That's Bull......just a slap on the wrist. 20 fish over the limit... he should have had ALL his gear repo'ed and the fine should have been AT LEAST double that. That's a clear ignorance for our fish/fisheries.
BillM Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Should have never been allowed to fish in this country again. 20 over you're limit isn't an 'Oops' Edited April 8, 2014 by BillM
Stoty Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Should have never been allowed to fish in this country again. 20 over you're limit isn't an 'Oops' EXACTLY!! Typical ignorance.
Headhunter Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 But did they pay the fine before they left our province? I wonder if the MNR can reach out to out of province offenders to retrieve funds? HH
jimmer Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 I would hope they took the fine before letting them go, considering how upset he was.
Moosebunk Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Some people's children. Good punishment, great result.
DanD Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 But did they pay the fine before they left our province? I wonder if the MNR can reach out to out of province offenders to retrieve funds? HH I know that New York state has an agreement with Ontario for diving offences. I got stopped for not wearing my seat belt. I was warned by the trooper that if I didn't pay the fine; the MTO would not issue my license plate sticker until it was. So hopefully there is something like that for the MNR? Dan.
iFish4real Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 I heard Canadians being caught speeding in US and escorted into nearest town to pay the fine. MNR should to the same to Americans especially for an offence like that...
DRIFTER_016 Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 I heard Canadians being caught speeding in US and escorted into nearest town to pay the fine. MNR should to the same to Americans especially for an offence like that... I got a ticket Friday somewhere in North Dakota. They gave me the ticket and I can either send them a cheque or call up and use my CC. Not only that the fines are way cheap down there.
aplumma Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 I heard Canadians being caught speeding in US and escorted into nearest town to pay the fine. MNR should to the same to Americans especially for an offence like that... Sorry that is not the case you will be issued a citation and then requested to pay it thru the mail . If it can not be paid do to the severity (DUI or reckless speeding etc) you must show up in court then you get to go to town to the magistrate. Same for anyone who drives a vehicle in the USA that does not have a place of residence to live at till the court date can be made. Art
Tim Mills Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 That's Bull......just a slap on the wrist. 20 fish over the limit... he should have had ALL his gear repo'ed and the fine should have been AT LEAST double that. That's a clear ignorance for our fish/fisheries. Agree. Unfortunately, for many that come north the goal is to fill the freezer back home.
iFish4real Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 I got a ticket Friday somewhere in North Dakota. They gave me the ticket and I can either send them a cheque or call up and use my CC. Not only that the fines are way cheap down there. I got one in Az, never paid it
iFish4real Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Sorry that is not the case you will be issued a citation and then requested to pay it thru the mail . If it can not be paid do to the severity (DUI or reckless speeding etc) you must show up in court then you get to go to town to the magistrate. Same for anyone who drives a vehicle in the USA that does not have a place of residence to live at till the court date can be made. Art happened to a friend of mine driving through Virginia, the cop didn't return his papers until he went to town and pay the fine
Musky or Specks Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 The reason they confiscate vehicle and boats is to ensure appearance. When you pay the fine you get your vehicle/boat back.
mike rousseau Posted April 9, 2014 Report Posted April 9, 2014 I know I might take heat for this... But is he any worse doing this a few times a year then the guy keeping his limit 5 times a week? Or a full time guide getting limits for 1-6 people per day all season.... I understand it's against the law... And that's wrong... But as far as abusing our fisheries... maybe not as bad as others do legally... In a week I'm legally allowed to catch... Keep... And eat 28 walleye of any size... That's if I fish alone... If I bring 2 buddies that triples...74 walleye me and my fishing buddies can catch... Keep and eat in a week... I can even have 16 in possession at my house for my family of 4... And that's just walleye... Now if I go out and keep that many on one outing I'm the worst case of resource abuse there can be...?? i don't think so... The guys getting 1-2-3 limits every week are doing more harm then this guy did... If this is a reoccurring thing then yes I get it... Did he break the law and get punished... Yes... And that's great... But to make it sound like this 1 guy on possibly 1 day is the worst drain on our resources... That's a bit ridiculous.. But that's my weird view on the "limit" system we have... It's very flawed in my opinion... Bring on personal quotas....lol To clarify... If "I" went out opening day and kept 28 walleye... Is that any worse then keeping 4 per day for 7 days on my vacation that week??? As far as abusing a resource??? No... It's the same thing... I just wouldn't have to clean fish 7 times...lol...Legally different story... Anyway... Not picking a fight... Just looking to get people thinking about our real issues...
manitoubass2 Posted April 9, 2014 Report Posted April 9, 2014 How dare you Mike! J/k, totally valid point. I'm still glad this dood got nailed too. But you bring up a great point!
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