Pikeslayer8 Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Missing a worlds record and a $300 fine is about as much book as you can throw for one fish over the limit True dat Of course, nothing stops him from making a replica and putting it in his lodge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 True dat Of course, nothing stops him from making a replica and putting it in his lodge Nothing at all...hope he took a picture, cause he ain't ever seeing that one again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdougy Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Im wondering if he had imported minnows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaShag Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Missing a worlds record and a $300 fine is about as much book as you can throw for one fish over the limit and the SHAME and public humiliation of being labelled a poacher.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) I guess when I think the term "book" I envision a much thicker book than $300....he's getting a brochure thrown at him maybe...perhaps I don't grasp the allure of holding the tip up record lol, all tackle yes, tip up not so much in terms of serious poaching charges, I just don't see his serious wrongful intentions....buddy fessed up to it, didn't try to hide anything, didn't make excuses...he got called on a mistake and owned up to it...that says something about his character in my books he just should have known the regs a bit better but because of the "record" potential he's going to catch more crap for it Edited February 27, 2014 by bare foot wader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 He is a poacher. Nice that some of you are proud of him. Must be poachers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 yep, you hit the nail square on the head...matter of fact, I just poached the "size 9 jigging rap record" earlier today.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I guess when I think the term "book" I envision a much thicker book than $300....he's getting a brochure thrown at him maybe He is a poacher. Nice that some of you are proud of him. Must be poachers too. Okay Glen. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danc Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 You wouldn't keep that fish knowing it shattered a world record? That depends on a few things Bill. Fishing for Brookies about a decade ago, my buddy hooks into a behemoth Lake Trout on 6 lb. test and an ultra light. 45 minutes later I net a 34 lb. (on a spring scale) Laker for him. Couple of pics and back it goes. I discussed the possibility of it being a line class record with him as neither of us knew what the 6 lb. test record was. But surely it had to be close. Turns out he smashed the record by 6 or 7 lbs (at the time). I forget exactly. When I told him, he just shrugged his shoulders and said that he still wouldn't have killed it just to get his name in a book. I can say for sure that had it been me, I wouldn't have killed it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I'd have a hard time putting a 50lb+ laker back down the hole, lol. Giant brookie? Wouldn't even have to think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danc Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I'd have a hard time putting a 50lb+ laker back down the hole, lol. Giant brookie? Wouldn't even have to think about it Ditto on the record Brookie!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark02 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 "I'd cut the old guy some slack. I would hope the MNR would have better things to do." Mike Borger Somehow I don't believe the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters / Ontario Out of Doors share this view. As a contributor to OOD magazine, I expect better from you. Why bother having MNR regulations if they're going to be ignored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) "I'd cut the old guy some slack. I would hope the MNR would have better things to do." Mike Borger Somehow I don't believe the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters / Ontario Out of Doors share this view. As a contributor to OOD magazine, I expect better from you. Why bother having MNR regulations if they're going to be ignored? Why would you think you've got any idea what the OFAH/OOD position is on this? This guy got a record fish, got all excited and didn't use his head. If you think he was out there 'poaching' on purpose, you've obviously never caught anything to get excited about... Edited February 28, 2014 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) "I'd cut the old guy some slack. I would hope the MNR would have better things to do." Mike Borger Somehow I don't believe the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters / Ontario Out of Doors share this view. As a contributor to OOD magazine, I expect better from you. Why bother having MNR regulations if they're going to be ignored? Some people are so quick to pounce. So because I'm affiliated with OOD and OFAH I'm not entitled to an opinion? And I wouldn't assume anything regarding the views of the aforementioned organizations. Nobody can ever say I don't speak my mind, and that won't be changing anytime soon. If I've offended your sensibilities perhaps you need to broaden your viewpoint? I personally respect everyone's view whether I agree with it or not. My opinion is the MNR is using the notoriety of said catch to make a point with the public. Being so grossly undermanned and underfunded, YES I do believe they could be doing better things with their time and our tax dollars. But as I said everyone's entitled to an opinion. Edited February 28, 2014 by Mike Borger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 The way im seeing it ...the MNR has no choice but to react or all hell will break loose for every poached fish going forward. It also minimizes the need for more COs if the few that we do have ...arent doing their job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnote Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) I think its a tricky situation for all parties involved. Best thing to do would be to administer his warning or punishment quickly before it drags on into some big production. I feel for the guy but i have witnessed so many poaching related offences both intended and otherwise( and lots in my own backyard when people come in for some spring bass on my canal) that i have to think he gets something. It would set a bad example if they dont. Edited February 28, 2014 by Gallie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeytier Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 My opinion is the MNR is using the notoriety of said catch to make a point with the public. Being so grossly undermanned and underfunded, YES I do believe they could be doing better things with their time and our tax dollars. But as I said everyone's entitled to an opinion. So you believe that a CO, under normal circumstances, would have overlooked a situation such as this? I personally doubt it. I see him being fined accordingly, as he should, but to jump on the guy and treat him as a ruthless poacher is a little ridiculous. Who here wouldn't blow their top seeing a fish like that come out from under the ice. Many people also see skin mounts as the only true way to mount a trophy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 but to jump on the guy and treat him as a ruthless poacher is a little ridiculous. I agree with that. For many people it's a black or white issue, there is no gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 There is only 3 ways I'm killing a fish, 1) it's an invasive species, 2) I'm hungry, and want fish for dinner and 3) it's an all tackle world record. Line class, tip up record, bamboo stick and string record? Couldn't be bothered! A stuffed fish on my wall has never been my thing. I can't say I'm for stringing this guy up by his feet though. Sure, he has done wrong, give him the ticket and call it a day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 The bottom line is still the same no matter what everyone's opinion is !!!! He broke the law knowingly and admitted it and got caught !!!! How is this black or white ??? World record or not the facts remain the same !!! He should not get the record and should be fined accordingly and that's the way it Is !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 When you see the headlines " Bus Beheader gets unsupervised outings" don't you think $300 for 1 fish over the limit is a little steep??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucktownAngler Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 What would I get out of it? My name in the records doesn't really mean much to me. Do they give you millions for a record????? I might if that's case though. LOL pretty sure Mustad will pay 1 mil if you catch a record on their hook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark02 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 "Why would you think you've got any idea what the OFAH/OOD position is on this" BillM From the OFAH's official website: At all levels of government, the OFAH is recognized as a highly professional and "devastatingly effective" advocate for Ontario's natural resources and the rights and traditions of anglers and hunters. OFAH leadership on issues such as invasive species, anti poaching, fisheries restoration, firearms issues and hunter education, are admired and often sought-after internationally by other organizations. "if you think he was out there 'poaching' on purpose, you've obviously never caught anything to get excited about ..." Your views on intentional and unintentional poaching make no sense. Did he intend or expect to catch a world record laketrout? No. Was he justified in breaking the law? No. He rationalized it was OK and figured he wouldn't get caught. Defending your friend is admirable. Excusing or justifying poaching is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 People make mistakes and I think that's exactly what this guy did. Do I think you should string up beside the guys filling white buckets and fishing out of season? No.. Do I think he should be fined? Yes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solopaddler Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 "Why would you think you've got any idea what the OFAH/OOD position is on this" BillM From the OFAH's official website: At all levels of government, the OFAH is recognized as a highly professional and "devastatingly effective" advocate for Ontario's natural resources and the rights and traditions of anglers and hunters. OFAH leadership on issues such as invasive species, anti poaching, fisheries restoration, firearms issues and hunter education, are admired and often sought-after internationally by other organizations. "if you think he was out there 'poaching' on purpose, you've obviously never caught anything to get excited about ..." Your views on intentional and unintentional poaching make no sense. Did he intend or expect to catch a world record laketrout? No. Was he justified in breaking the law? No. He rationalized it was OK and figured he wouldn't get caught. Defending your friend is admirable. Excusing or justifying poaching is not. If this was the old west you'd be a hangin' judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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