davey buoy Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I agree 100 %....they should be allowed two terms and out the door...always fresh and always on their toes and dont get to become complacent to the constituants I believe the first time they lie about what they promised OUT. Any one can win with the best promises.We have seen this.Hold them accoutable.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky or Specks Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Ontario/Canada/All countries are to large for democracy to work. Democracy can only work on a small scale where if your leader does something you don't like you can confront him personally. You are just a faceless mob to a bunch of corrupt bureaucrats who serve only the rich and when you cry about stuff like this and the fact that you can't put bread on the table to feed your family I expect no different response from those "elected" officials than" let your family eat cake." Edited October 10, 2013 by Musky or Specks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 There is only one way this will all stop..Us the people need to do something..Say what you want about the American government shutting down but you mark my words , if this keeps up much longer the American people will speak out...Who know what will happen but it wont be long before every trucker farmer and biker will be in Washington.. Perhaps we need to do the same?...... Oh, no!! We have it bad enough here in Canada but we sure as hell don't want to emulate the American system. . From the frying pan into the fire!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 There is only one way this will all stop..Us the people need to do something..Say what you want about the American government shutting down but you mark my words , if this keeps up much longer the American people will speak out...Who know what will happen but it wont be long before every trucker farmer and biker will be in Washington.. Perhaps we need to do the same?......absolute truth. We are not far behind america in terms of "our" government. We'd all be smart to make our voices heard now, rather than later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 http://www.19actionnews.com/story/23647721/poll-americans-like-hemorrhoids-better-than-congress Butt they keep getting reelected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 The worst part is ....she isnt even our elected Premier....bring on the election so this (why would i say that) can join her male counterpart elsewhere on this planet with our money ...preferably in a prison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F7Firecat Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 ill bet oakville and mississauga vote liberal in the next election......just watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 yeah, I hear ya, I'd would like to see accountability including loss of job/ pension, jail time etc for stuff like this, Pam Wallin and Mike Duffy haven't even lost their cushy jobs when if I did something like that, I'd be in jail, really ticks me off I did a rough calculation when the G20 cost Canada a billion $'s, as tax payers it cost me and my wife about $100, so here's another $100 out of our pockets for another screw up yeah, I hear ya, I'd would like to see accountability including loss of job/ pension, jail time etc for stuff like this, Pam Wallin and Mike Duffy haven't even lost their cushy jobs when if I did something like that, I'd be in jail, really ticks me off I did a rough calculation when the G20 cost Canada a billion $'s, as tax payers it cost me and my wife about $100, so here's another $100 out of our pockets for another screw up About the only thing that came out of the G20 was dropping the duty on sporting goods coming from and into the US, so says our local member of Provincial Parliament, a PC. If I'm wrong I was fibbed to, can't imagine a politico not telling me the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxie Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) What is the differance, it doesn't matter who you vote for they all do the same thing! They lie, break promisses, raise our taxes and give themselves lavish pensions and nothing ever gets done about it. There is no accountability, if they get caught stealing they just pay it back and all is forgiven because they are all doing it. I keep hearing "if you don't vote you deserve what you get!" I have voted in every election since I was old enough to vote. Different party names but it is all the same game! Sad but true. People see someone slitting salmon bellies and they want to crucify them but when someone pilfers their grandchildrens future they just throw their hands up and utter that statement? Gas plants, E-Health, Ornge, All day Kindergarten, Windmills, Solar Panels, Teachers contracts, OLG..................... Individually one would be buried in the crap they could throw at us to make our lives a living hell if one tried to take them on but could you imagine what 50-100,000 pissed off citizens could do if we marched to queens park throwing our fists in the air in anger? Hell we didn't even flinch when she was appointed by the same slimy, self serving prick she partnered in crime with to cause this Liberal Mess. I'd love to run into him in the street one day so I could give him a piece of my mind and lose my boot in his ass. Hope I find my magic lamp cause I think I have one wish left. I guess as long as we can take selfies of ourselves and updating our status as to how good a dump we just had or how many fish we caught were satisfied enough to maintain the status quo. "We"are indeed a sad bunch. We could initiate change but I highly doubt it. Edited October 11, 2013 by moxie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Farmer Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Adult 18 or over content http://www.safeshare.tv/w/UAGOcLSuLX Lib's, Conserv, or Ndp. Next question, who should we vote for. I guess the best Lier , should I vote for a Lier? When's it all going to stop? Edited October 11, 2013 by Fish Farmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workwear Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Sad but true. People see someone slitting salmon bellies and they want to crucify them but when someone pilfers their grandchildrens future they just throw their hands up and utter that statement? Gas plants, E-Health, Ornge, All day Kindergarten, Windmills, Solar Panels, Teachers contracts, OLG..................... Individually one would be buried in the crap they could throw at us to make our lives a living hell if one tried to take them on but could you imagine what 50-100,000 pissed off citizens could do if we marched to queens park throwing our fists in the air in anger? Hell we didn't even flinch when she was appointed by the same slimy, self serving prick she partnered in crime with to cause this Liberal Mess. I'd love to run into him in the street one day so I could give him a piece of my mind and lose my boot in his ass. Hope I find my magic lamp cause I think I have one wish left. I guess as long as we can take selfies of ourselves and updating our status as to how good a dump we just had or how many fish we caught were satisfied enough to maintain the status quo. "We"are indeed a sad bunch. We could initiate change but I highly doubt it. lol...can you tell us how you really feel....?? agreed agreed and then agreed....... but what can we do......really..... ..didn't they have some sort of protest a few yrs back and the general public called them crazy i personally don't see this as much as a provincial problem...but a global problem... and i have a feeling the worst is yet to come people are finally waking up to corrupt Govt's all over the world even in canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Liberals are the provincial problem....CPC is the Countries problem...two different ideals from two different organized crime ridden regimes ....that modified the European Criminals methods to the tolerances of the sheep under them (some of us)...baaaaaahck to the tv and computer for them or grab a sign and walk up and down the street ....talk to your friends ..neighbours...join a protest that you understand and believe in ....most importantly....EDUCATE yourself and your children so that you/they can make informed decisions as to what matters....Heres one you didnt know ...since Halloween is comming up...if you get caught wearing a Anonymous mask....10 years in jail for you....isnt it interesting pedophiles only get three?....point is ...make yourself herd by peaceful participaction.....its getting late so i have to go to bed now....I have a Great Lake to Protect in the morning from nuclear waste...Good Night and hope to see you there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappieperchhunter Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 What is the differance, it doesn't matter who you vote for they all do the same thing! They lie, break promisses, raise our taxes and give themselves lavish pensions and nothing ever gets done about it. There is no accountability, if they get caught stealing they just pay it back and all is forgiven because they are all doing it. I keep hearing "if you don't vote you deserve what you get!" I have voted in every election since I was old enough to vote. Different party names but it is all the same game! I agree with you 100% Cliff. That's why I have never voted, ever. Pretty much a waste of my time IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.brock Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 There is only one way this will all stop..Us the people need to do something..Say what you want about the American government shutting down but you mark my words , if this keeps up much longer the American people will speak out...Who know what will happen but it wont be long before every trucker farmer and biker will be in Washington.. Perhaps we need to do the same?...... I was really hopeful when the "Occupy Movement" was going on, most people (including the majority on OFC) said this is stupid, they don't have a defined issue they are protesting, etc those kids had it right, it wish it would have become more viral and got more support, they were basically saying "screw this, this whole system is bull pooh", and all we do now (myself included), is gripe about our state of affairs, just like we are doing now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 ill bet oakville and mississauga vote liberal in the next election......just watch you mean like Scarborough just did in the by election because they got promissed a subway extension PS the windmills here are all shut down because they have an excess of power and a new extension of the windfarm just got approved for construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbailey Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) of course we will Edited October 12, 2013 by JBailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 tone z71 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 The dollar amounts are imaginary anyway. There's no resources backing our currency anymore. Smart man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 He is Darrell... but it's not imaginary when they take 51% of my income, to play with (stupidly) to their hearts content! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Caster Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 51%..? You need to learn how to write off income! Plus that was only partially provincial taxes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) Don't worry .. I have it figured out how to live pretty much HST free at least.... Edited October 12, 2013 by irishfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 (edited) Edited October 12, 2013 by Knuguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landry Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 What is the differance, it doesn't matter who you vote for they all do the same thing! They lie, break promisses, raise our taxes and give themselves lavish pensions and nothing ever gets done about it. There is no accountability, if they get caught stealing they just pay it back and all is forgiven because they are all doing it. I keep hearing "if you don't vote you deserve what you get!" I have voted in every election since I was old enough to vote. Different party names but it is all the same game! You nailed it with that comment Cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cram Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 They say that the Ring of Fire mining development in northern Ontario is our version of the oil sands (in terms of economic impact, and potential to pollute) so you may want someone other than the Conservatives in power. The Liberals do seem like crooks though, and the NDP is the NDP (yuck). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookslav Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 I really firmly think the issue isn't who votes and who doesn't.... The issue is about 60% of the people who vote do not actually research the platforms and understand the party positions they are supporting. Many times people just vote based on "preferred" parties whom they think reflect their way of thinking... I have friends who vote Liberal because they ALWAYS vote liberal...They feel the Liberals are more Left minded and therefore more in line with their personal though process, while my parents are members of the PC party....they ALWAYS vote PC for the same reasons. I personally try to keep in mind there is no "perfect" party to vote for but… There is always going to be that one party whom is the lesser of the evils. But for cripes sake if we can’t support any one party and we know they are all liars there is one thing we CAN do…..Hold them accountable!!!! If they muck it up....Vote ‘em out and give the next jerk a shot. If we did this more often we’d see some accountability. Letting McSquinty slide last time sealed our fate….at this point I'd rather try ANYONE but the Liberals. They had their chance, again, and again...time to let "someone" else have a shot. We can be cynical all we want….we can say they are all alike, but how do we know until we try? Should we just not vote, take our lumps, be told what to do and be complacent? Is that what our veterans did? No thanks folks....frustrated or not, I read, research and take my politics seriously. I don't think the slogan should be vote or quit you whining….the slogan should be “Vote responsibly” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Caster Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 well said Cookslav. I'd almost like to see the greens get a shot at power just to see the other parties sit in the corner for a bit and maybe smarten up...or get back to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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