SirCranksalot Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 This topic got started on Mike Solo's Dusey trip thread, so I'm posting here rather than hijacking. I have always been reluctant to use steel leaders when fishing for bass or walleye and there are pike around. ( I have never targetted pike). I have the impression that a steel leader interferes a bit with the action of the lure and could be visible to the fish. In the last few years I have not used any special leader for pike and have rarely had a pike bite off the mono. A couple of weeks ago I was in the Nakina area. I caught quite a few pike and had just one cut the line right at the boat. I'm interested in hearing if you use the newer fluro leaders. I understand that they are quite resistant to being bitten off by pike, but I find that a bit hard to comprehend, given that they are plastic. Your comments? thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopheraaron Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 seems more people use fluro leaders for muskie then use steel...so why not pike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 With flouro the idea is that you can use a higher test line that is less visible than the equivalent lb test mono. Depending on the size and action of your lure the action may not be impacted too much. I have also used a coated "tieable" wire line when I am fishing walleye but pike are a real possibility. I think it works better for walleye lures and presentations then heavier flouro. I like braid and use it a lot but I find it does not stand up to teeth and rocks as well as its lb test would lead you to believe. It's break strength is great but its abrasion resistance more closely matches its diameter. Wire/flouro leader and even mono sometimes works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 seems more people use fluro leaders for muskie then use steel...so why not pike Pike lures don't cost 25-65 dollars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregoire Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I would advise using mono leaders. For pike you only need 40 or 50 pound leaders and can tie your own leaders pretty easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipfisher Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 PM Highdrifter (Fidel) about his leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeslayer Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 100% flouro for anything/everything with teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbuck Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I use 50lb test fluro for pike. Never even close to a breakoff on one of my rigs and they have brought in some nice fatties over the past couple of years. San diego jam knot, use that and you are golden. Google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 i'm using 40 lb flouro leader material with heavy swivels and snap swivels to make my own leaders for a fraction of the cost of ready made. bass pro has offshore angler saltwater flourocarbon leader material in 25m spools. the leaders on all 4 rods i've been running this year still look brand new after a bunch of pike so i'll be sticking with this line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djeep Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 while out tossing big streamers for bass on my fly rod I watched a 30" pike take the fly without even noticing the 60lb fluoro leader, perhaps thats because he sliced it in half like it was butter i used to use steel but it sucks to cast. not sure what to do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynmar Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I generally tie on about 4 ft of fluorocarbon (spelling? to my braid and that's all I'd use. But two years ago on the French I had a fish bite off 60 lb.Seaguar leader material. Now I still use the 4 ft but tie a 12 " tungsten leader on the end. Not for my bass or perch set ups but just for the Pike rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backbay Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 For pike, I tie leaders with 40 lb Malin 7 strand that I get from Bass Pro. It's an uncoated wire, so it's reasonably fine. It's a cheap solution, you get to use your favourite swivels and snaps, (I like Berkley Easy Snaps). I haven't had a failure. For really big fish, I use 100 or 130 lb flouro, but don't tie those myself. For Bass, I have started using 20 lb flouro, and like that it doesn't kink, and it's really fast to tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAW Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 i'm using 40 lb flouro leader material with heavy swivels and snap swivels to make my own leaders for a fraction of the cost of ready made. bass pro has offshore angler saltwater flourocarbon leader material in 25m spools. the leaders on all 4 rods i've been running this year still look brand new after a bunch of pike so i'll be sticking with this line. X2. I use the same line. I tie my own leaders using high quality swivel snaps, and metal crimps. Very cheap. I've have the same leader on my pike for for a full season (Likely 50+ Pike), and is still looks brand new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 As you can see by the responses, not even fluoro is bite proof. There is no replacement for wire. Particularly on baits that the fish tend to 'swallow' like the soft plastics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinnerbaitking Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I tie my own leaders after being bit off with 40lb flouro I bought 50 & now 60lb, Big Jim once told me he used 80lb bought leaders & has up that to 130lb at times, depends on the size of the lures, you don't want to over power them, I still have Steel & Titanium Leaders for quick hook ups if I'm Bass fishing & there seems to be a lot of Pike or Musky around, Pike lures maybe aren't that expensive but I really don't want to leave a lure in a Pike or any fish if it can be avoided, when you get bit off just up your line size until that doesn't happen any more, to start a few buddies bought a different size spool each & then bought what worked best, saved some money Tight Lines SBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Pike aren't picky, I haven't seen one that was leader shy yet. Big flouro leaders or titanium (That won't kink).. No point in donating lures to those tooth critters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeytier Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Pike aren't picky, I haven't seen one that was leader shy yet. Big flouro leaders or titanium (That won't kink).. No point in donating lures to those tooth critters. Yep. I usually run braid to steel when I'm specifically fishing esox. Pike DO.NOT.CARE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Some of my customers are pike anglers from NW Ontario and out west (Alberta, Sask). They order up a lot of the Tuf-Leader steel leader. http://www.tuf-line.com/products_Specialty-Lines_20.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 rio makes a good wire tippet, the 20 lb is pretty fine and supple, it doesn't impede any lure action...it holds a knot easily as well http://www.rioproducts.com/tippet/specialty/powerflex-wire-bite-tippet/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Fluorocarbon is all i use now, from 40lb (when i'm fishing for bass in pike waters) to 80lb (big pike and musky). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 No leaders for bass. 130lb for Muskie and Fidel (Highdrifter) makes the best for pike. Really the best I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Clemens Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) I currently use 100# Flouro on my musky rods = 18"/24" in length. Of course, sometimes you can't keep the pike off the lures. I check the leader carefully after each catch to make sure there are no nicks or bite marks that could weaken it and cause the loss of a really nice fish. I used to use steel leaders, but after one fish, they can get bent up pretty bad. I also tried Titanium leaders as well, but they can get a bit pricey. Edited June 25, 2012 by Rich Clemens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernpike56 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 nothing. if you are trying more to catch bass and walleye then forget it. If I am targeting mainly pike upwards of 30" then I will put a steel leader on, but there is no point for a leader for smaller pike under 30", they never seem to engulf the lure past the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) I've never had a musky bite through 100lb flouro... On a side note... I boated 20+ musky while fishing walleye last year... With 10lb power pro and 20lb mono leader... Didn't get bit of once last year... However... Pike tend to inhale baits a bit more then musky... . Edited June 25, 2012 by Musky Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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