gaspumper Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Mnr did a great job Four men from the US have been handed severe punishments for over-fishing on Rice Lake, near Peterborough. The men, two from Tennessee and two from Pennsylvania pleaded guilty to the charge of over-fishing and packaging the fish to conceal that. The charges were laid after Ministry of Natural Resources Officers checked their cooler while they were leaving a Rice Lake cottage and found 49 walleye, 33 more than they were allowed to have between them. The group was fined a total of $11,900 and all four are banned from angling in Ontario for the next three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Mnr did a great job Four men from the US have been handed severe punishments for over-fishing on Rice Lake, near Peterborough. The men, two from Tennessee and two from Pennsylvania pleaded guilty to the charge of over-fishing and packaging the fish to conceal that. The charges were laid after Ministry of Natural Resources Officers checked their cooler while they were leaving a Rice Lake cottage and found 49 walleye, 33 more than they were allowed to have between them. The group was fined a total of $11,900 and all four are banned from angling in Ontario for the next three years. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Mnr did a great job The group was fined a total of $11,900 and all four are banned from angling in Ontario for the next three years. NICE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Question , are fines like this to Americans even paid or do they just stop coming to Canada ? I doubt the 4 travelled to Peterborough for their day in court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Fine is not nearly high enough and a lifetime ban would be more appropriate...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjames09 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Mnr did a great job Four men from the US have been handed severe punishments for over-fishing on Rice Lake, near Peterborough. The men, two from Tennessee and two from Pennsylvania pleaded guilty to the charge of over-fishing and packaging the fish to conceal that. The charges were laid after Ministry of Natural Resources Officers checked their cooler while they were leaving a Rice Lake cottage and found 49 walleye, 33 more than they were allowed to have between them. The group was fined a total of $11,900 and all four are banned from angling in Ontario for the next three years. Where did you read this from? any links? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaspumper Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) http://www.mykawartha.com/news-story/7074926-four-americans-fined-for-over-fishing-on-rice-lake/ Edited January 20, 2017 by gaspumper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 my take is that it is too lenient. 2500 in fines plus not being allowed to fish in ontario for 3 years? meh Lifetime ban at a minimum because they are foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Banned for only 3 years? Any out of province folks caught breaking the laws should be banned for life. We don't need those poachers on our waterways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Banned for only 3 years? Any out of province folks caught breaking the laws should be banned for life. We don't need those poachers on our waterways. I agree. But it seems as if the law favours in the side of tourism dollers. Thats just how I view it, no idea if thats true or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 That's probably exactly how it works, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acountdeleted Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 it's a sad day. Agree with the ban for life, and extra fines if caught bringing fishing or angling gear into the country. Really enforce that. 33 walleye over the limit is waaaaaay too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 One from Pa and both from TN had the same last name? Sounds like it could be a family affair? I'll bet they consider themselves sportsmen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 I thought that the MNR could confiscate anything that was used in the commission of an offense. if that is indeed the case, why didn't they hit them where it would really hurt and take their vehicle, boat and all equipment used in the offense. I would bet that had this happened in the States, the fine would be levied and the offenders would not be allowed to leave until such time that the fine(s) were paid. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenzy31 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Banned for only 3 years? Any out of province folks caught breaking the laws should be banned for life. We don't need those poachers on our waterways. X3 We have enough homegrown losers, don't need any extras! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
206 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 this is only a small part of a big problem...i lost count of how many times guys fishing out there have asked me about slots and limits not to mention photos i have seen with questionable size fish.....i know a guy on the lake that likely has a freezer full of fish right now Glad they got these three but that is only a drop in the bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) I receive the newsletter from "MNR Watch", mnrwatch.com. It gives detailed accounts of charges laid for hunting and fishing offences as well as the outcomes of court cases. In all cases the penalties doled out are nowhere as severe as what I would like to see. A 3 year ban on fishing is ludicrous in this case, they should be banned from entering the country for 5 years. To Rick's point re: tourism dollars, not happening as the US dollar (T)rumps all. I strongly urge you all sign up for the newsletter. I was lead to it by a link Mr. T.J. Quesnal provided a few years ago here. There is however a Justice in the North Bay area and she isn't so kind to offenders. A larger % of the charges seem to come from the North Bay area for some reason. I was surprised to see also that there seems to be a large number of Hunting guide/camp owners that are charged for a number of reasons most often Moose hunt related. I have never read where those charged lose their vehicles or boats. Guns occasionally but not the bigger ticket items that would really hurt like a vehicle and boat. Edited January 20, 2017 by Old Ironmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 this is only a small part of a big problem...i lost count of how many times guys fishing out there have asked me about slots and limits not to mention photos i have seen with questionable size fish.....i know a guy on the lake that likely has a freezer full of fish right now Glad they got these three but that is only a drop in the bucket. Sadly, the lake we both fish there are people living on the lake that don't know the reg's at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) I know more than a few people who's freezers are full of illegal fish and game. Most of them are in their 70's or older that saw some tough times growing up and find it tough on meager pensions . I'm not about to rat on them either. If they were selling it that might be different but \I still wouldn't rat. Years ago some of our neighbours would park on the side of the road and sell fish and game, they still do if you know where to go, that's wrong too because I know the MNR is aware of it. Edited January 20, 2017 by Old Ironmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 I also believe the abuse goes way beyond the charges that we hear about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Ideally we should have an reciprocal agreement with other states and provinces that if you lose your license here for an infraction you also lose it at home for the same period of time and vice versa of course, not being able to fish in Ontario for 3 years is probably of little consequence to some one from Tennessee . Still curious as to whether they actually pay these fines. Edited January 20, 2017 by dave524 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Ideally we should have and reciprocal agreement with other states and provinces that if you lose your license here for an infraction you also lose it at home for the same period of time and vice versa of course, not being able to fish in Ontario for 3 years is probably of little consequence to some one from Tennessee . Still curious as to whether they actually pay these fines. That's a great idea but I think too hard to police so to say... As for the paying or not paying or the fines. I'd guess if they owe money to the Gov and try and come to Canada it would be flagged when trying to enter and then they WOULD have to pay on the spot to enter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) That's a great idea but I think too hard to police so to say... As for the paying or not paying or the fines. I'd guess if they owe money to the Gov and try and come to Canada it would be flagged when trying to enter and then they WOULD have to pay on the spot to enter? No. Apon entering they would be arrested. With unpaid fines you will eventually get a bench warrant. You would be arrested at the border and held to await trial Edited January 20, 2017 by manitoubass2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) No. Apon entering they would be arrested. With unpaid fines you will eventually get a bench warrant. You would be arrested at the border and held to await trial That's sort of what I thought and was saying. BUT pay before as an option to avoid arrest Edited January 20, 2017 by GBW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 this is only a small part of a big problem...i lost count of how many times guys fishing out there have asked me about slots and limits not to mention photos i have seen with questionable size fish.....i know a guy on the lake that likely has a freezer full of fish right now Glad they got these three but that is only a drop in the bucket. I agree 100%. I fish rice once a week at least from may to September, and have for at least 20 years....more....and never once have I been checked by OPP or a CO. Not once. I could go out anytime I want and catch as many as I want and bring them home with no worries at all about being checked. Its sad. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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