Mass shooting in Florida--NF

[npt1]

Well, another killing spree in the United States, will the madness ever stop?

Headlines say 20 killed, other news stations report as many as 50 are dead,

Dozens of people injured.

It just keeps happening.

[Rodbender]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/06/12/shooting-orlando-club/85785254/

Edited June 12, 2016 by Rodbender

[Terry]

unimaginable ......50 dead 53 injured

[BassMan11]

Terrible tragedy. Senseless violence.

 

I guess the question will come up. Could someone inflict the same amount of damage with a shotgun and a couple handguns? Does the US really need to be selling military weapons (AR 15's) to civilians?

 

Thoughts and prayers go out to the families affected.

[Rizzo]

crazy

[SirCranksalot]

and the sale of guns will probably go up even more! So sad and tragic!! Let's not hear any defence of even more guns. Enough already.

[aplumma]

The tragedy is not that a gun was used in a killing it is that a person has the mindset to do such a horrific thing.

 

Why O why do you not see it is the people who are acting rather than the gun? Pandoras box is open banning all guns will not correct this. Guns are just the weapon of choice would it be better if it was a pipe bomb? I am sure that this will get lots of how too comments most will be just wishful thinking none will be the answer that will solve the issue.

 

 

Art

[dave524]

Radicalized American born Muslim

 

 

edit: http://www.tmz.com/2016/06/12/terrorist-omar-mateen-gay-nightclub-murder/

Edited June 12, 2016 by dave524

[Terry]

but without guns it becomes a knife fight and is far more manageable

[dave524]

but without guns it becomes a knife fight and is far more manageable

 

 

 

or a pressure cooker bomb and the toll goes up

[Terry]

I really dont believe that

and thats not the way it has been so far and for the most part in canada there have been far fewer that die in an attack like this because they dont have the same fire power, if your reasoning was right all attacks in canada would be bombs ...not..

[aplumma]

but without guns it becomes a knife fight and is far more manageable

It was not a fight it was an act of terrorism. The bomb is very possible. Besides if we outlawed all guns today we still have millions of them out there. The percentage of bad people VS law abiding citizens turning them in would make the majority of illegal guns in the wrong hands. You can rest assured that If Canada had a target on their back as big as the US you would have the same types and frequency of violence we are experiencing in this troubled times.

 

Art

[sauce]

High capacity auto or even semi-auto rifles are not necessary for hunting. So why is a weapon like this available to anyone other than military or law enforcement?

[misfish]

The tragedy is not that a gun was used in a killing it is that a person has the mindset to do such a horrific thing.

 

Why O why do you not see it is the people who are acting rather than the gun? Pandoras box is open banning all guns will not correct this. Guns are just the weapon of choice would it be better if it was a pipe bomb? I am sure that this will get lots of how too comments most will be just wishful thinking none will be the answer that will solve the issue.

 

 

Art

 

People kill. NOT GUNS.

[manitoubass2]

Tragedy indeed, very sad.

 

But, you wanna see alot more people die?

 

I pitty those that repeal the second ammendment in the US.

 

Youd have a civil unrest the past few generations have never seen the likes of.

[Terry]

clearly it was not a fight the point was the lesser the weapon the lest damage will be done

 

we get the same type of terrorism here just not as much but for the most part they use hunting rifles not automatic rifles, why you ask no you would not ask..but I will tell

because they are hard to get here

[JoePa]

The number of people that got killed could have been averted if some of the people there had guns to defend themselves - considering all solutions the only one that will work is for good people to have guns - time and time again some nuts comes into a place and starts shooting and there is no one to stop him - you can pass all the laws you want but it is impossible to keep guns out of the hands of some nut -

[leaf4]

At the end of the day people will kill others, guns just make it so much easier, too much easier.

[dave524]

High capacity auto or even semi-auto rifles are not necessary for hunting. So why is a weapon like this available to anyone other than military or law enforcement?

 

 

The majority of firearms enthusiasts in Canada are not even hunters, that statement makes about as much sense as you don't need a power boat to go fishing.

[manitoubass2]

Ughh. Does anyone even know (aside from art) why the 2nd ammendment is so important to our southern friends?

 

Debate it all you want, it is not going anywhere withouth a massive fight(and I dont mean in court)

Edited June 12, 2016 by manitoubass2

[Terry]

sure I know it well, but it does not change my opinion nor does it change this conversation

its like saying do you know why isis is attacking...

50 people are dead the rest of it is politics

[DRIFTER_016]

The number of people that got killed could have been averted if some of the people there had guns to defend themselves - considering all solutions the only one that will work is for good people to have guns - time and time again some nuts comes into a place and starts shooting and there is no one to stop him - you can pass all the laws you want but it is impossible to keep guns out of the hands of some nut -

 

Problem is the area is designated a gun free zone just like Chicago.

Where ever you have gun free zones in the US the criminals are the only ones with the guns.

 

You look at the shooter on Capitol Hill. He was taken out by a person who had a gun. He had to go to his office and get it but without it there would have been many more injuries and deaths.

 

Firearms are tools, no different than a hammer or a screwdriver in the hands of a competent, qualified individual.

FYI, there have been plenty of murders using a screw driver or hammer. Better ban those too.

 

This also wasn't a mass shooting, it was a terror attack by a radical Islamic terrorist.

Just like the attack in California late last year or the attacks in France.

[misfish]

sure I know it well, but it does not change my opinion nor does it change this conversation

its like saying do you know why isis is attacking...

50 people are dead the rest of it is politics

 

 

You didnt get out fishing this weekend did you?

 

Eat a snickers, you,ll feel better. OOPS, FORGOT

 

 

BTW, booking a long weekend. Lets go

Edited June 12, 2016 by Brian B

[SirCranksalot]

The number of people that got killed could have been averted if some of the people there had guns to defend themselves - considering all solutions the only one that will work is for good people to have guns - time and time again some nuts comes into a place and starts shooting and there is no one to stop him - you can pass all the laws you want but it is impossible to keep guns out of the hands of some nut -

Give it a rest, Joe. Give it a friggin' rest!! We really don't need to hear that same old tiresome old argument/rationalization/justification at this time.

[dave524]

Give it a rest, Joe. Give it a friggin' rest!! We really don't need to hear that same old tiresome old argument/rationalization/justification at this time.

 

2 days earlier, a hero took action, even without a gun, while his sister lay dying, only 2 miles from this massacre, that situation could have turned equally as deadly by the weaponry the shooter had with him. Make your choice, victim or fight back .