misfish Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I had to go into Angus to get the grandaughter and was early, so made the right turn before the bridge. I guess the owner has had enough and I for one, do not blame them. Big red dots on trees,no tresspassing sign and a chain across the walk entrance. Talking to a local that was fishing on the edge of the property line, he said the owner had enough. From what I heard, an angler that was fishing the already posted no tresspassing further down, was asked to leave. His response was not friendly.So now you have a 50 yard shore line to fish on the north side of the bridge. WELL DONE,WELL DONE.Keep this crap up, and you will lose the south side as well. Myself I dont care, as I dont fish there. It dose sadden me the ignorance of people and the ones that feel the need to leave thier trash behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kerry Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I personally don't know why people have to take anything at all with them that they would throw away as an afterthought in this day and age.I go fishing I use a thermos and my lunch is packed in a bag which is used to take anything loose with me.I don't bother with live bait anymore with all the bio products available.I use the same philosophy whether I am shore, boat or ice fishing. Property owners have only one way of curtailling the problem and that is to block it off to public access and of course this doesn't just apply to fishing as it is the same problem wherever use of private land is allowed for public trails too.They do have the right to protect their investment, just sad that some elements feel they can trash the world and walk away. Kerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Talked to the owner many times,He was at his limit the last 5 years or more.Does not surprise me,but if everyone took out what they bring in,that was all he wanted. What a shame . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatnFly Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 same thing is happening on the ganny, 3 farmers posted their land this year. was on some private grounds as a guest of a member, and got to watch a couple of trespassers get introduced to the land owners fully trained schitzun king sheppard! they came down in kayaks as a way of getting around the private property, about half way through, they decided to leave their kayak and and stand in the river. land owner has a kings deed which says he owns the river bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessy Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 yes Dan does not mess around. more and more land is disappearing from the ganny . if it goes maybe the rainbows will come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatnFly Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 yes Dan does not mess around. more and more land is disappearing from the ganny . if it goes maybe the rainbows will come back no he does not! his new dog is big too, he just bought him last year, said it was one of the only dogs that scared him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted April 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 same thing is happening on the ganny, 3 farmers posted their land this year. was on some private grounds as a guest of a member, and got to watch a couple of trespassers get introduced to the land owners fully trained schitzun king sheppard! they came down in kayaks as a way of getting around the private property, about half way through, they decided to leave their kayak and and stand in the river. land owner has a kings deed which says he owns the river bed. yes Dan does not mess around. more and more land is disappearing from the ganny . if it goes maybe the rainbows will come back Let me give you a bit of history here. The land was open to all back before I moved to Barrie 25+ years ago. They even let people use thier home property to store thier tin boats to launch on the Notty. About 15 years ago, they tried to make things easy for those that felt the need to leave trash. They put out large steel drums for trash and even put a porto potty. Sign posted, keep it clean. Last chance. Saddley, some dicks decided it would be fun to set the porto on fire. This was the end of above said. CLOSED OFF. From then til this past fall, the rest was open. Now like said, CLOSED CLOSED CLOSED TO ALL. I have a nice private public allowed, access spot that has been posted, KEEP IT CLEAN OR LOSE IT. Shame if they do, as it,s a spot I like to visit a few times in the fall. I can only take so much trash out with me the few times I visit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatnFly Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Let me give you a bit of history here. The land was open to all back before I moved to Barrie 25+ years ago. They even let people use thier home property to store thier tin boats to launch on the Notty. About 15 years ago, they tried to make things easy for those that felt the need to leave trash. They put out large steel drums for trash and even put a porto potty. Sign posted, keep it clean. Last chance. Saddley, some dicks decided it would be fun to set the porto on fire. This was the end of above said. CLOSED OFF. From then til this past fall, the rest was open. Now like said, CLOSED CLOSED CLOSED TO ALL. I have a nice private public allowed, access spot that has been posted, KEEP IT CLEAN OR LOSE IT. Shame if they do, as it,s a spot I like to visit a few times in the fall. I can only take so much trash out with me the few times I visit it. same thing on the ganny, they put trash cans out for people, and people still can't be bothered, people walk across their freshly plowed and seeded fields, and just disgrace their property, if you can take it in with you, you can take it out with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizzo Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 its not just fisherman. As I drove thru town today I was stunned how much garbage I saw laying in the ditches. Seriously, who throws garbage out their window? Is it someone elses responsibility to pick up your coffee cup or even cigarette butts? Ignorant. We truly live with a bunch of slobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.brock Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) land owner has a kings deed which says he owns the river bed. I understand he's fed up with the trespassing, but I'd like to see the piece of paper saying he has a "kings deed" for the river bed. What about the Navigable Waters Act? I'm pretty sure if his dog hurts somebody, he'll be in trouble. Edited April 25, 2016 by chris.brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpierre Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I understand he's fed up with the trespassing, but I'd like to see the piece of paper saying he has a "kings deed" for the river bed. What about the Navigable Waters Act? I'm pretty sure if his dog hurts somebody, he'll be in trouble. Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatnFly Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I understand he's fed up with the trespassing, but I'd like to see the piece of paper saying he has a "kings deed" for the river bed. What about the Navigable Waters Act? I'm pretty sure if his dog hurts somebody, he'll be in trouble. they're within their rights as long as they do not leave their boats, soon as they leave their boats, they are on his land. the township knows he has a kings deed, he wants to put his property up for sale, the township wants him to segregate it and use the river as the dividing line. kings deeds are old deeds, and rare ones. he uses his dogs for intimidation only, hes an old man, not able to take on a young punk who thinks they can trespass on his land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 land owner has a kings deed which says he owns the river bed. I'd love to see it, there aren't many navigable waterways in this province where landowners still have stream bed rights. I only know of one that I fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallacio Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 It's actually quite possible that he does own it, if the farm has been continuously owned by his family lineage since the land was originally deeded by the crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 its not just fisherman. As I drove thru town today I was stunned how much garbage I saw laying in the ditches. Seriously, who throws garbage out their window? Is it someone elses responsibility to pick up your coffee cup or even cigarette butts? Ignorant. We truly live with a bunch of slobs There isn't a roadway in southern Ontario, short of the few kept clean by volunteers, that is not a pigsty. I cashed in $250 in aluminum last year picking up cans on my morning walks with the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 There isn't a roadway in southern Ontario, short of the few kept clean by volunteers, that is not a pigsty. I cashed in $250 in aluminum last year picking up cans on my morning walks with the dog. Used to have a friend that would take a group of younger people and do the ditches, he regularly picked a big cargo trailer full of pop and beer cans, turned into cash for charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) There isn't a roadway in southern Ontario, short of the few kept clean by volunteers, that is not a pigsty. I cashed in $250 in aluminum last year picking up cans on my morning walks with the dog.Hahaha that was one of my favorite things to do with grampa when I was a youngin! Still sticks with me to this day. I got a few hundred bucks worth sitting out in my shack. We bring a trash bag with us when we shore fish. Its amazing the odd spots you will find trash or where a party went on in some weird part if the bush. We even found a couch a few years back and I had to wonder how it got in there? Its thick enough bush its hard to walk through for 5km, howd a friggen couch get out there lol Edited April 25, 2016 by manitoubass2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishermccann Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Let the dog bite you ......own the land. Edited April 25, 2016 by fishermccann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatnFly Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Let the dog bite you ......own the land. and this is why we are losing access to fishing spots, ZERO RESPECT FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 That was also part of the problem,some fisherman would taunt his dogs as they went around a fallen tree that was off limits. Just hate the disrespect now for everywhere. More then just sad . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard S. Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) they're within their rights as long as they do not leave their boats, soon as they leave their boats That's true if the waterway is considered navigable, if it's not, like the Ganny then they cannot canoe or kayak through private property. Rich. Edited April 27, 2016 by Richard S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 That's true if the waterway is considered navigable, if it's not, like the Ganny then they cannot canoe or kayak through private property. Rich. What sections of the Ganny are not considered navigable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatnFly Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 What sections of the Ganny are not considered navigable? this is where the NWPA fails, there is no real definitive answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 My understanding is they have resently changed or proposed changes to what navigable water is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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