manitoubass2 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Tongue and cheek I believe, steve
manitoubass2 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) You know, the pharma system is funny(well sad actually, depending on how you look at it) I sprained my knee 3 weeks back. I went in just a precaution. Xrays are fine no real damage, just ice and heat and time to heal. Dr offers oxycodone. Ummm no thanks, its hurts but im not dying(ive had hundreds of these injuries from skatebaording and snowboarding) Well then here is some tylenol #3's. Um no thanks, im just hear to make sure there is no structural damage. Well you need to take something? Ummm no i dont, maybe an ibuprophen here and there. Well here is a script for ibuprophen. No thanks, i have some at home. Edited October 23, 2015 by manitoubass2
glen Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 The issue is the government. Why is it legal in some states and not here.
Steve Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 i know it was tongue and cheek, but even still, didn't make sense.
manitoubass2 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Id rather smoke weed then use opiates. Gotta be carefull with general practitioners Last time I wasnt I ended up addicted to clonazepam(and trust me its a living hell)
manitoubass2 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 i know it was tongue and cheek, but even still, didn't make sense. Maybe his way of saying "everyone calm down"? Lol
Steve Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 A few specific examples of shadiness between drug companies and the white-lab-coat-wearers: 1. Johnson & Johnson was recently caught paying commissions (kickbacks) to pharmacists, for selling (ie recommending) their drugs. J&J was forced to pay $2.2 billion to settle this fraud case. [1] 2. Doctors are often hired to help promote drugs. They will essentially go from MD's to VP's of Marketing, and travel around the country giving talks to promote the drugs. These presentations are made to look & feel like it's just the doctor telling you about the latest research, but the pharmaceutical companies typically write the script. PBS did a great interview with a couple Harvard Medical School professors, discussing the ethical greyness of this. [2] 3. In 2005 Medicare cracked down on payments cancer doctors were getting to treat patients in their clinics. The result? Way less billing of these treatments, in one year in went from $5.6 billion to $4.4 billion. So, how did doctors respond? They started recommending the most profitable treatments, regardless of whether it was the best for patients. [3]
netminder Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 You know, the pharma system is funny(well sad actually, depending on how you look at it) I sprained my knee 3 weeks back. I went in just a precaution. Xrays are fine no real damage, just ice and heat and time to heal. Dr offers oxycodone. Ummm no thanks, its hurts but im not dying(ive had hundreds of these injuries from skatebaording and snowboarding) Well then here is some tylenol #3's. Um no thanks, im just hear to make sure there is no structural damage. Well you need to take something? Ummm no i dont, maybe an ibuprophen here and there. Well here is a script for ibuprophen. No thanks, i have some at home. And which type of drug comes up most often as extremely dangerous and abused by teenagers? Which drugs have the highest incidence of habit forming? And doctors love giving these out like candy on Halloween. I know it looks like I'm doing a complete 180 here, but I still think there's a bit of a double standard if marijuana is a medicine and a recreational drug.
SirCranksalot Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Maybe the gov. Should force everyone to smoke it. sounds like what they used to say about communism: "What's not forbidden is mandatory"
BillM Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Bill, clearly I misread you on this, my apologies. I'll edit my post accordingly! Dutch PS: I like a good rye whiskey now and then too. If you want to try something new, try it on ice with coconut water. Rum is even better like this. No need to edit anything man And that coconut water trick sounds good! I'll give it a shot tonight
John Bacon Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Well its simple chemistry Maybe i can develope a test and make uber millions Somebody beat you to it https://www.facebook.com/streetfx/videos/10155829991915112/
DRIFTER_016 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Somebody beat you to it https://www.facebook.com/streetfx/videos/10155829991915112/
manitoubass2 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Hahahah seen that awhile ago??? Doesnt work for opiates though? Edited October 23, 2015 by manitoubass2
leaf4 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Posted October 23, 2015 Came across this, seems relevant https://www.trudeaumetre.ca/
GbayGiant Posted October 24, 2015 Report Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) I'm not anti weed at all. Legalize it, tax it and be done with it. It won't be any different then going to the LCBO to buy your fav bottle of whiskey. People just need to admit why they want it(Like you just did).. Enough with all the other excuses, it's the same reason I like a whiskey now and again. wrong again Rona Edited October 24, 2015 by GbayGiant
Gerritt Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Zeitgeist is a great film.... To just how much we are controlled. It even talks about big pharma
manitoubass2 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Posted October 25, 2015 Zeitgeist is a great film.... To just how much we are controlled. It even talks about big pharma That documentary is a lil much for some to handle lol I got my mom to watch it and my dad. Their reactions were priceless ???
netminder Posted October 26, 2015 Report Posted October 26, 2015 Zeitgeist was good until it got into the 911 "truthers". If anything it opened my eyes to how one sided and misleading "documentaries" can be.
manitoubass2 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Posted October 26, 2015 Zeitgeist was good until it got into the 911 "truthers". If anything it opened my eyes to how one sided and misleading "documentaries" can be. Most of them are nowadays, each film usually has an agenda It rarely ever shows both sides. I watched one on fracking that was just a horrible misrepresentation of facts
netminder Posted October 26, 2015 Report Posted October 26, 2015 Most of them are nowadays, each film usually has an agenda It rarely ever shows both sides. I watched one on fracking that was just a horrible misrepresentation of facts was it the one where the guys water is flammable? Yeah, that was 100% fabricated.
Sterling Posted October 26, 2015 Report Posted October 26, 2015 I'm not anti weed at all. Legalize it, tax it and be done with it. It won't be any different then going to the LCBO to buy your fav bottle of whiskey. People just need to admit why they want it(Like you just did).. Enough with all the other excuses, it's the same reason I like a whiskey now and again. With you on that. I think there are some legitimate medicinal purposes for weed but some people act like it's a cure-all miracle drug. The main reason people want it legalized is for recreational use, and I think that's a good enough. To those clamoring that weed is harmful etc, I'll only hear it if you have the same views on alcohol (ban both, or support both). I have a few alcoholic friends/acquaintances, and I'd replace their addiction with weed in a HEARTBEAT.
GbayGiant Posted October 26, 2015 Report Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) With you on that. I think there are some legitimate medicinal purposes for weed but some people act like it's a cure-all miracle drug. The main reason people want it legalized is for recreational use, and I think that's a good enough. To those clamoring that weed is harmful etc, I'll only hear it if you have the same views on alcohol (ban both, or support both). I have a few alcoholic friends/acquaintances, and I'd replace their addiction with weed in a HEARTBEAT. cure all??... far from it!!!!. but it does a better job for what it is used for than any pharma made medications. You need to read up. Edited October 26, 2015 by GbayGiant
dave524 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Posted October 26, 2015 cure all??... far from it!!!!. but it does a better job for what it is used for than any pharma made medications. You need to read up. I find it really helps with my tinnitus that I've had for 20 years, few tokes, crank up the tunes and the sound of crunching Doritos and it totally disappears
DRIFTER_016 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Posted October 26, 2015 I find it really helps with my tinnitus that I've had for 20 years, few tokes, crank up the tunes and the sound of crunching Doritos and it totally disappears HMMMMMMM, I'll have to try that.
manitoubass2 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Posted October 26, 2015 I find it really helps with my tinnitus that I've had for 20 years, few tokes, crank up the tunes and the sound of crunching Doritos and it totally disappears Sounds more like an appropriate time for some hash?
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