leaf4 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) In the cap strapped landscape of the NHL it vastly extends the time to make any roster moves that are meaningful. ie; 1st and second liners, and at that many teams want your first rounders, a testicle and your wife to make the deal as well as sending a strong player back their way that you probably don't want to part with Also laugh all you want but as it stands the leafs are still in the playoff hunt so things aren't as bad as they're being made out to be, look at the bruins, chiarelli and benning are crapping themselves right now because their core is finally falling apart, lucic is part of the backbone of that team and has checked out plus chara has been a non factor in his return and krejci hasn't been as dangerous as he has in the past Edited January 7, 2015 by Lucas F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 They have encounter groups for the more delusional amongst the Leaf fans. Have to admit I'm a recovering Leafs fan myself. It's an addiction, but I'm getting better. I know the Leafs will win the cup some day, in some alternate universe. Just not in my lifetime. Certainly not as long as they can drag out some of the old relics that last held the cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggie Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Well they need to send some kind of message to the players that they too are accountable. I'd deal Kessel at the deadline for anything reasonable. The guy is poison in a dressing room. If you watched the TSN segment on his pingpong addiction and his highy charged interview you know this guy is bad news. Yes he scores 40+ goals a year but he's minus 6 so the opponent scores 46 when he's on the ice! Remember the Sundin days when the Leafs had leadership in the locker room. Or Gilmour's tenure with the Leafs! I've never seen the Leafs so hopelessly lead. Remove the C off of Phaneuf and appoint another Assistant Captain instead. Make up some fluffy excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeslayer Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) DM is in negotiation with B.S to determine DP's tolerance re: relinquishing rhe C. Proposed that ML's follow HABS formula & would allow DP an honourable way out. Edited January 7, 2015 by pikeslayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 It was a good night of hockey. Both the HABS and Sens lost. Not a nice feeling is it. LMAO Pens and Bruins tonight. Should be good. Oh and the Leafs play the OVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxgoaler Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Always nice when the Habs and Sens lose, Going to be a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Ya tough nite....but 2 points out of first in the conference with 2 games in hand I like our position better than yours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raf Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 step 1 - team building 101. someone needs to take a run at ovechkin tonight, and it shouldn't be komarov. the other stuff will sort itself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 As long as the rock heads on the ice run the team, the Laffs will always remain loooooosers. Babcock to Toronto? Are you kidding me? TSN keeps talking like it's a done deal. Why would he leave a team that's going places and is ALWAYS in the hunt and in the playoffs? No way. Detroit will negotiate a good contract for him and he'll stay. After all what idiot would want to work with those rock heads? A couple of the sports networks are talking about packaging a couple of Leafs and buying out their contracts are at least carrying part of the cost to get them out. I agree, rip the team apart and rebuild. Anywhere in the world I have been, money talks....remember there is no salary cap for coaches, and you are talking about one of the wealthiest sports franchises in the entire world. They will throw an unlimited amount of money at him and make him an offer he cant refuse. Do you honestly think Babcock loves Detroit so much that he would turn down an additional 1-2-3 maybe even 4 mill per year...ya right lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbailey Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Anywhere in the world I have been, money talks....remember there is no salary cap for coaches, and you are talking about one of the wealthiest sports franchises in the entire world. They will throw an unlimited amount of money at him and make him an offer he cant refuse. Do you honestly think Babcock loves Detroit so much that he would turn down an additional 1-2-3 maybe even 4 mill per year...ya right lol. Detroit isn't an organization strapped for cash. They're not going to let him go. Edited January 7, 2015 by jrwb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbailey Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Oh and why the obsession with Babcock?! Dan Bylsma would be a great choice, but personally I'd love to see them pick up MacLean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Babcock as coach would be good but if you don`t fix the core problem Babcock will end up like all the rest...as the bobcat would say can`t make chicken salad out of chicken turds!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Some light humpday reading. http://www.thesportster.com/hockey/top-25-dirtiest-players-in-nhl-history/?utm_source=FB-TS&utm_medium=Facebook-Distribution&utm_campaign=FB-TS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Who gave out the bad contracts? They are at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Some light humpday reading. http://www.thesportster.com/hockey/top-25-dirtiest-players-in-nhl-history/?utm_source=FB-TS&utm_medium=Facebook-Distribution&utm_campaign=FB-TS What a surprise. What team is best represented by the list?? The Flyers. They even make the Russians look like saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 My opinion... To sit back and say it's the players or it's the management is far to simple. Like any business there is a multitude of critiria which work together to make it successful. Players skill, attitude, leadership, coaching, scouting, Management, etc. The teams that win are less disfunctional in less areas than teams that don't. We know when the Leafs are on the scale. This is why they are so inconsistent and the win big or lose big streaks happen. Every year there is always one team that "just needs a goalie" to be a real contender. They're lucky because all other pieces are somewhat in place. So, my opinion is we're all correct because I can't think of one area of the franchise that is nailed down. Well, other than fan base loyalty and that's disappearing at an alarming rate according to the "experts". I personally think the coaching change is warranted, not sure about the timing though. But I also think it's only one step of many that has to get addressed before real, sustainable improvement is possible. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxgoaler Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 In Phaneuf's interview today he said he needs to be better, twice , never heard that from him before. Seems like he's been told. Or maybe he was just reading this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 In Phaneuf's interview today he said he needs to be better, twice , never heard that from him before. Seems like he's been told. Or maybe he was just reading this thread. Or reading between the lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SurraTusa Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I loved your article post.Much thanks again. Fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Your welcome....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddler Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Washington scored. Fire the coach. NEXT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 It was a good night of hockey. Both the HABS and Sens lost. Always nice when the Habs and Sens lose, Going to be a good day. It's always a bad day for me when the leafs lose cause I know that my friends will be sad. Oh well, you can always fire somebody. You can still even make the playoffs!!! Can you imagine the joy I'm feeling just thinking about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeslayer Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 step 1 - team building 101. someone needs to take a run at ovechkin tonight, and it shouldn't be komarov. the other stuff will sort itself out. Phaneuf had a golden opportunity to do just that and turtled. Perfect opportunity to show what kind of a leader the Captain is. Or Coward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Phaneuf had a golden opportunity to do just that and turtled. Perfect opportunity to show what kind of a leader the Captain is. Or Coward?Ovie would wreck Phaneuf. Sad indeed. But Phaneuf knows that too or he woulda made a point to find him later in the game. A few big hits in that game. That hit on Panik where Panik stood him up was a HARD hit! Edited January 8, 2015 by manitoubass2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeslayer Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 In Phaneuf's interview today he said he needs to be better, twice , never heard that from him before. Seems like he's been told. Or maybe he was just reading this thread. -2. Getting better LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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