Mike Pike Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 All the sports "Insiders" aren't such insiders after all, eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenboater Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) as long as MLSE have their hands in the pot, nothing will change. Most of the bums in the ACC seats won't stand waiting for a team to build over the long term. I predict an Oiler Cup waaaaay before Leaf nation will get close enough to sniff it. and for those who Believe, this Globe story might be a sobering read http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/is-mike-babcock-really-the-best-coach-in-hockey-how-do-we-know/article24380450/ Edited May 20, 2015 by woodenboater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaque Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 All the sports "Insiders" aren't such insiders after all, eh. Exactamundo........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostAnotherOne Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 You want to win a cup I do believe your best chance is low draft picks. Now that Babcock is in Leaf land I don't see them rebuilding with anything decent. Dumb move for my Leafs and smart move for the Wings. Can this Leaf team do better then last year? Most likely, but can they compete with teams like Chicago or New York. Hopefully I'm dead wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 You want to win a cup I do believe your best chance is low draft picks. Now that Babcock is in Leaf land I don't see them rebuilding with anything decent. Dumb move for my Leafs and smart move for the Wings. Can this Leaf team do better then last year? Most likely, but can they compete with teams like Chicago or New York. Hopefully I'm dead wrong. What does Babs signing have to do with the rebuild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostAnotherOne Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Having Babcock as the coach who's probably a top three coach in the NHL isn't going to allow the Leafs to get a top 5 pick in the draft in the coming years. Babcocks system hopefully can change the teams dynamic, but I really doubt it. I will be interested to see how this team looks come September Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highdrifter Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 So the cup is now an American affair... That's pretty sad considering the Stanley Cup is originally from CANADA. That's all I'm going to say about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddler Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Not to worry. Kessel will tell Babcock what to do. It will be status quo by mid season. Babcock will be fired by mid season and Kessel will complain that he's under paid. Welcome to The Laffs Mike. Good Luck! Edited May 20, 2015 by muddler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I think Toronto dangled a bigger $ contract then Detroit did. Coaching for the money. If Detroit really really wanted him to stay, Im sure they would of made an offer he wouldnt refuse. I hope he can make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostAnotherOne Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Buffalo's gotta be the unluckiest team ever haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Buffalo's gotta be the unluckiest team ever haha NAH they just didn't pony up a good enough deal. They offered the same $$$$ as TO but over a 10 year contract. Toronto: $6,250,000/year Barfalo: $5,000,000/year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Of course all the uneducated Leaf fans out there think this means a Stanley Cup. Welcome to the pressure cooker, Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Pike Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I'd love to contribute to this thread but I've got a parade route to plan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Buffalo's gotta be the unluckiest team ever haha Yeah, they can't be happy, lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Yes!!!! I called this one boys!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskymatt Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Sad to see! Bab's was a good guy, had a good resume with plenty of success and now has been lured into the career ending, black hole of suckdome known as the laffs. Sorry your legacy has been stopped Mike. You were a good man! Sniff sniff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) To quote floyd money money money money......moneyyyy Lostanotherone you have the exact same point my brother made, theres no such thing as drafting low if you are a crap team that will now make the playoffs simply because your coach is that good. The rebuild is a strange concept now, however if you are doing it the right way with young guys then no complaints here. There is nothing wrong with taking a very young inexperienced team and building it up. I along with many of my friends have been discussing this for years, what the heck are the leafs doing, yes there is a salary cap, but there is no cap on how much you can spend on coaches, staff, scouts management all should be top notch. Anyone else here about guy boucher as an assistant???? July 1st cant come soon enough, dump kessel, trade phaneuf for Edmonton's 16th...ba bam Shanny is god. Edited May 20, 2015 by AKRISONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaque Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Yeah, they can't be happy, lol! We are not Happy..........but they must not have been totally enamoured, or Pegula would have doubled any offer just to get him here lol The buffalo guys that should be PO'ed are the ones that counted it as almost a done deal...........Silly radio show guys, they live in this fantasy wannabee GM land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskymatt Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 July 1st cant come soon enough, dump kessel, trade phaneuf for Edmonton's 16th...ba bam Who in their right mind would take on those two contracts? You guys are stuck with them for a long time. How can you call Shanny god when he has done absolutely nothing to pad a GM or front office resume? You guys crack me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I just want to congratulate you Matt on your team winning the Stanley Cup again this year. You must be very proud!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I have a feeling Kessel will be traded for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 He must of came with some conditions?,get rid of all the free loaders,and we know who they are I might add.Just can't see him coming for the same crap we have for the last couple years.Don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 He must of came with some conditions?,get rid of all the free loaders,and we know who they are I might add.Just can't see him coming for the same crap we have for the last couple years.Don't see it. I think the biggest difference is that he will sit the free loaders rather than play them if they continue to be free loaders. I know I would if it were my job. First you sit on the bench a bit if you're not giving 110% then if no improvement you get to sit in the stands until you get the point!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Kessel might stay. Phanuef is gone But I hope kessel leaves too lol If im Babcock, first thing I do is take the boys golfing. Second is fishing. Third is sit the f down and watch everygame from 2 years ago. If you wont hit, backcheck or fight your gone. No lie, if they dont get the point id trade kessel etc for absolute no names that show up, work hard, play hard, know the game and appreciate the opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddler Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Been saying that for years and I all I heard is how great Kissel is/was. Yeah, right. It will take a lot more than a coach to change this group around. Sit players out, no way , Kissel won't allow it. Trade Kissel....are you kidding, who wants him? He's a "sniper" remember? Dion, same thing, who wants him? Trade him for a roll of tape maybe. We'll see in the first 20 games what impact Babcock really has. You can't turn a mule into a thoroughbred, and the Laffs are just high paid mules. Now back to real hockey. How about dem BOLTS? Edited May 20, 2015 by muddler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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