Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 keep us posted. should the individual responsible be charged, they are generally fined and then the bank would be repaired at the cost of the landowner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutologist Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Not sure if it is set up yet (was in the organizing stages when I left ON) but monies from fines such as these (by the MOE only I believe) go into an environmental damages fund. Then they are applied for by groups for conservation efforts in THE AREA that the fine was levied. This is separate from the remediation required by the landowner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptackle Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Wonder if that might be the surcharge added to fines such as these? Think it's something like 25% is automatically added. That can run the tab up in a hurry! Should be a 300% surcharge for this circumstance and all others like it as far as I'm concerned. Especially in an area like the Niagara River! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 I have to tell you Bruce, I am so proud of you for taking action on this! So many others would have just walked away grumbling and done nothing. Good on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 I wonder if there'll be a double whammy on this one if the property in question is within the designated Greenbelt area. JF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitter Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 I'm sure this is going to generate a whole lot more attention then this person ever imagined. Where are the tree hugging, placard waving environmentalists when you need them???? In this case I think the tree huggers are all on this website, and good for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitespinnerbait Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Everything will be swept under the carpet.....The place in question is the Mayor's Pad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 (edited) Everything will be swept under the carpet.....The place in question is the Mayor's Pad... Well, lets make sure it isn't! Give the authorities time to act and if they don't lets all support Bruce and do something about it! Edited March 19, 2010 by Big Cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Everything will be swept under the carpet.....The place in question is the Mayor's Pad... wink.gif wink.gif A call to the local news may fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted March 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 A call to the local news may fix that. Let's give the authorities some time to work. This was only reported to them this morning. Call the press in and the property owner will be hiding behind a wall of lawyers slowing everything down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnimon Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Kudos to you Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 You would be suprised how government agencys cover for each other. We have a perfect example of it going on here right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 I agree, give the authorities time to do their thing. What I meant is if it dos get swept under the carpet then it's time to stir the pot a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTHM Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 The Niagara Escarpement commision would probably have something to say as well. That is one agency you DO NOT want to mess with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjsa Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Let's give the authorities some time to work. This was only reported to them this morning. Call the press in and the property owner will be hiding behind a wall of lawyers slowing everything down. Yeah, until their opposition hears about it. Lets face it, if it was indeed the mayor who did this, he or she had opposition in the election. The opposition will jump all over this given the chance to. How much the party in question could deflect toward the contractor remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Has it been confirmed that it's actually the mayor's property? I sorta assumed that the statement was made tongue in cheek and has gotten out of control. Maybe I was wrong but if not it's a stunt the press would be proud of. JF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daplumma Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Thats a big no-no here also.A guy cut down a bunch of trees to get a better "view" of the Potomac a few years back.Monster sized fines for him.Good job,do you have any before pics? Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted March 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Thats a big no-no here also.A guy cut down a bunch of trees to get a better "view" of the Potomac a few years back.Monster sized fines for him.Good job,do you have any before pics? Joe The area was verdant and lush. Just teeming with life. the beaver den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 After seeing those last pics, what could actually spawn and survive in that muck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneFly Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 After seeing those last pics, what could actually spawn and survive in that muck? dont catfish spawn in that soup and live in it...? where is Dawgy to chime in on those creepy excuse for a fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 dont catfish spawn in that soup and live in it...? where is Dawgy to chime in on those creepy excuse for a fish? Yeah, I would think catfish could tolerate it, but I dunno what else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneFly Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Yeah, I would think catfish could tolerate it, but I dunno what else. WHeeeeew...for a minute I though this was a real river....that being said,...there are no silt fences or any erosion bariers,.totally illegal, not too mention the change of landscape,....Having a bit of background in this area...I know it is a MAJOR issue!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) Bigugli, the MNR will be all over this guy. Been there done that when we built a dock. I would love to see some before pictures if you have any... so would the MNR. Edited March 22, 2010 by Nemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadadude Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 After seeing those last pics, what could actually spawn and survive in that muck? Channel cats survive and in fact thrive in this pond, aswell as crappie, sunfish,largies it is abit of a mud hole at times. As for Lake Ontario fish using it for spawning I'm not so sure, it's tough for the fish to get into at the mouth, however Salmon use to run it during high water levels.I forgot to mention carp, there's some monster's in there aswell The sad part is this dude ruined a big part of the natural shoreline,the stupid thing is by removing the trees,vines and ground cover his backyard will soon slump into the pond. Unless this guy spends a few thousand dollars in retaining walls and such he's going to have one big mess on his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted March 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 The lake run fish came in last year in very large schools. Huge schools of shiners ( food for the bigger fish ), yellow and white perch, sheephead, carp, channel cats, even some bows. Water looks fairly dark with mud most times, but so does the Grand, and it's teeming with life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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