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That net in the background....is that what you use to land? just curious...do you keep or release?

Laz you should return the pin...apparently it is only for elitest 'snub-nosed' brats who do not know how to fish any other way!! and have too much money to spend LOL this is of course coming from guys way north...who for the most part have never used one...or used one properly.or just have an attitude...

Oh boy ...Ive had enough...lol...Edit what you like...lol...I stand behind what Ive sai. if you want the full version go back 100 replies lol...gotta be a record for one night.

Not this spring...but I know guys who have in the past when its LEGIT....its closed you know where your thinking...but then again vini...we dont want to opent that can of worms do we? remember those pics of you guys poaching last fall...lol

but I believe you said in drifting situations you use a centre pin unless the wind is over 25km/h...correct? I understand why...the line blowing off the pin is a pain in the ass if you dont know how to control it... and again...every single post you have made here has been about centrepins and teaching your buddies to use a centre pin? notwithstanding your carp posts....which incidently are Awesome on a pin as well In addition...just because you decided to use a flyrod or ot bottom bounce on that particular day doesnt make it more effective....it just means you have a lot more time to mess around,..lol......ive seen you on the rivers several times with nothing other than a centre pin...

you can edit my posts? lol

Yo bud, I hear ya...DAM you got a great job...!! any grade 12 girls? Lol...wait...i never asked that...lol.. As for the rest...yo man...read it all from page 8,...im gettin attacked from ll sides,..mostly from the same 4 guys...its all good...I luahg at it for the most part. there is a reason they let posts like this keep going as long as it is within limits...Im getting a commissiion

7 years for a 2 year college diploma that anyone over the age of 21 can walk into without a highschool diploma? Impressive...Lol did you have to do a read and write test,..or just count to ten on your fingers? or 9 ? toes? As for me,..I got an acutal honors degree in Environmental Science majoring in earth and atmoshpheric and water science. You wouldnt understand the level we go into. Many grads from your program tried to get into mine and got exempted from like 2 courses out of 40,...lol. the whole fisheries/wildlife part was kindof the bird course aspect...where we went to the tanks for the breeding and saw how they added extra dye to the fish to make them more colurful...for commercial operations. kindof like cosmetics...is that what you do? but seriously,...Environmentally as a whole...the science of the soil, water and air and how we manage that for the ecosphere and human health is very complex...the fish part is relatively easy...hence the bird courses. for a guy working at Mcdonalds,..it may seem difficult or uadmiable...and dont get me wrong...Im glad you guys do what you do...although I have read many many studies and they are very flawed both scientifaically and from a self serving job preservation point of view. Im not even going to explain the higher level science,..becasue i dont think you will understnad. Ecology and fishery biology are not hard...you just have conflicting interests to deal with and have to choose when to sell out and when not to. I work in the alternative green energy development sector...new to North america...but gaining huge strides..Europe is doing well and Ontario is now the next leader in north america. Please just keep stocking my fish...so I can have fun...thank bud!!! by the way..Lose the chinooks, keep up the coho, steelhead, browns and atlantics I guess. so before making judgments,..either think or ask...

Cudz,...I totally respect your opinion,...mostly becasue of the way you said it. If I were you I wouldn't buy a pin either,..you need to be avid river fisherman to make the learning curve worthwhile....I really dont know where the notion of Centre pin guys use it for any other reason than it is more effective came about and I dont really care...I think the only guys that disagree are the ones that didnt have the patience to use it effectively....or just dont get it. I am the last guy that would use something becasue I thought it made me cool...geeez im on the river with a rod with a broken tip...and a jacket with gluestains all over it because i used it for construction on rooftops...and my sweater ,..the blue one..is 15 years old, the zipper doesnt work and its got perminant burrs lodged in it...oh also I have the cheapest chest pack money can buy...but inside is gold....if that is elitest,..i dont even know what I would call some of the other guys wearing $3000 worth of gear. cuz it aint me. To your last 2 points...You probably dont know you are flossing...but alot of guys do...and as for the centrepin working better for some guys,..its only because they took the time and effort to learn...and now understand how much better it is than a spinining reel for drifting...regarding the notty...I disagree bigtime...closer to 80% or more use pins... but then again its more of the catch and release guys. And to the last one...I had a very frustrating workday today and was punching walls and steel doors anytime i wasnt around co-workers....kinda wished I was on the river close to some big mouths that were here yapping a bunch of Bull!!! lol...not directed at you Cudz....but some of the name callin guys...GIDDY UP!!!!

When cousins marry....Lol...Hey dumbass,..why dont you re-read all the posts...or did you mommy leave for the night?....you know jackshit about me or where I fish...you inbred peice of donkey crap...the majority of my fishing has been on the notty..is that an eastern ditch? Yes I have an islander ...a relatively cheap rod,..cheap waders,..and a cheap old snow bloarding jacket....where the F do you get off assuming all the rest....because you took a half-wit sir sanford fleming course, that any moron could get into? then you had to move to Winnepeg to get a low paying job? i dont even know what pattagucci is....As for past Barrie....Well I spent the half of my time growing up north of huntsville as a youth...and still try to get up there as much as possible...so for the rest of your idiotic stements...Stuff it..

No way ..not on your life can you drift down more than 20' with a spinning reel the same as a centrepin...sorry,..B*. I agree on casting...no doubt there. your argument about elitest is also B*...recall i used to use a spinning set-up...do you think I changed becasue I think its cool? LMAO...give your head a shake!!! as far as reeling in...i can rell a 5" reel in faster than a soinning reel,..im not sure who couldnt. the only time a spinning reel for a float set up even come close is in the ditches....but landing the fish has less success,..and the topic of FUN hasnt even been introdcued,...isnt that what its all about...?

Bahahahahaha....this was the point of my original post into this thread,..and it turened into something retarded....I see the same thing all the time....

Just to clarify are you saying that you can drift down 100-200' and keep your line as tight with a nice presentation with a spinning reel as with a centerpin? also are you saying that spilt second you have to lock down and keep a fish out of the wood work is as effective with a spinning as it is with a centrepin? if so,..(which I dont beleive for a second)...and you have this skill...why do you own a centrepin...would seem redundant...and a waste of money for the truelly skilled anglers....your words seem to suggest only the middle of the road guys would use it...but spinners are gfood for newbies and the well skilled guys. please clarify

Exactly what I was saying!!!

that is a much more well thought out intelligent reply Rob...and I think you have agreed with what I have said several times....(I should have pointed out the niagara as an exception) not too many other rivers get to 30'+ deep. I thought i had made it clear that float/centre pin, spinnin/baitcaster for spinners, and flyrods were 3 methods that are effective in my opinion....yes obviously on the niagara, alot of guys bottom bounce 30' down....but in 4' ; of water....sorry I still dont agree,..but thats fine...Ive seen what ive seen. And FYI,..i never claimed to be any expert on any of it....but my experience on the rivers has shown me, i do a little better than the average guy...Do i think I am in Solo's league,..no way...he has got 20 years and 30 hours a week to fish ,..lol....I still beleive no matter what he says for the purpose of this thread, he uses a pin for steelhead from the riverbank 95% of the time,..and he has not denied that. I understand at your age, riverromping is maybe too much...not a dig,..and thats why you sold your pins and bought a chair to bottom bounce. there are some morning I want to do the same,..but it gets real boring to me. anyways,..i hope more guys do take up bottom bouncing in the smaller rivers...more fish for me to catch. and what you mentioned about 'switching it up'..i fully agree,..but not neccesarily for technique...but bait,..shot..etc...i love walking up to a roe pressured hole and dropping in a nymph and get a fish on first drift.

dude,..just reacting to the insults as they fly at me. How would you rate holding a fish from diving into a logjam using a centrepin vs. spinner on a float set-up? theres many other instances....if you re-read the posts,..it was obviously an attack at me as I supposedly some sort of centrepin elitest...which is total Bull....but again my qustion was to you was,..of your last 3 threads you posted how many of those fish were not caught on a centrepin? Im betting zero....in addition,..i have stated many times that other presentations ie., flyrod and spinning reel for spinners and spoons can be effective....the main point is that drifting with a spinning rod is inferior to using a centrepin...this is what i have been saying all along....im not sure what is so hard to understand.

I just saw your post now...and while hmmmmm...seems to be alot of know it alls that dont think much ...Id be quite happy to meet in person with you bud...I can come all the way up to the land of inbreeding and explain it to you...maybe show you how to fish as well 'careful' is not a threat,..but taking it as one just means your a pussy..lol

All that wall bashing is making you delerious...lol. Drifting = Floatroad + centrePin = Best method Spinners/spoons = Lightweight + Spinner reel/baitcaster = best method Flyfishing = Fly Rod and Fly Reel = best method. this is all I have been trying to say all along, if you read back you will realize this. they each have their own place,..but there is a reason most steelhead are caught with the first one and there is a reason more guys use it than any other in general. All this B* about elitest has nothing to do with what im saying...Im not one of those guys walking around with $3000 on their backs...not by FAR!!! all the assumptions you ignoramcies made by lumping the 2 together,..says alot about your intelligence

I just looked back at your posts on this topic...Exactly what facts did you state? you sold some centrepins...not exactly a fact...apparently the rest is just stating YOU know it all...? Fact...LOL

Well since your opinion carries so much weight,..why dont you tell me and everyone else which is more effective in general in Ontario rivers for catching steelhead?

Lol...and I bet you have none...if you sold them as you say..its probably because you dont know how to use them,....Ive caught many fish both using a spinner float set up and a centrepin/float ste-up...the later is far better in many ways...noone ever goes back,..there is a reason for it.....use your head before you type

LMAO...Little Buddy was reffereing to Dr. Sally...Im still waiting to hear how many Steelhead solo has caught this spring on anything but a centrepin...and buddy you obviously know NOTTA about what you are talking about...so your opinion means bunk...'Elitest' how ignorant are you? if you have ever seen me on the river...you would know Im far from that...the Centrepin is is simply the best weapon to catch steelhead on the river, not too mention salon or browns,...if you dispute that, you either dont know what your talking about or your just being an A**. Who ever 'WE' is and what you think? LMAO...the quality of responses I have seen Is very humerous,...

I mentioned it 2x already Dara,..READ!!

Hmmm...isnt that the same location where several threads have talked about the rape and pilage of the fishery and all the locals keeping 2 and 3 times there limit per day...the 2 usually go hand in hand. But if you are defending the former,..thats your beef!!!