Destruction of a fishery

[Guest ThisPlaceSucks]

keep us posted. should the individual responsible be charged, they are generally fined and then the bank would be repaired at the cost of the landowner.

[troutologist]

Not sure if it is set up yet (was in the organizing stages when I left ON) but monies from fines such as these (by the MOE only I believe) go into an environmental damages fund. Then they are applied for by groups for conservation efforts in THE AREA that the fine was levied. This is separate from the remediation required by the landowner.

[cheaptackle]

Wonder if that might be the surcharge added to fines such as these? Think it's something like 25% is automatically added. That can run the tab up in a hurry! Should be a 300% surcharge for this circumstance and all others like it as far as I'm concerned. Especially in an area like the Niagara River!

 

Michael

[Big Cliff]

I have to tell you Bruce, I am so proud of you for taking action on this! So many others would have just walked away grumbling and done nothing. Good on you!

[JohnF]

I wonder if there'll be a double whammy on this one if the property in question is within the designated Greenbelt area.

 

JF

[smitter]

I'm sure this is going to generate a whole lot more attention then this person ever imagined.

 

Where are the tree hugging, placard waving environmentalists when you need them????

 

 

In this case I think the tree huggers are all on this website, and good for us!

[Whitespinnerbait]

Everything will be swept under the carpet.....The place in question is the Mayor's Pad...

[Big Cliff]

Everything will be swept under the carpet.....The place in question is the Mayor's Pad...

 

Well, lets make sure it isn't! Give the authorities time to act and if they don't lets all support Bruce and do something about it!

Edited March 19, 2010 by Big Cliff

[tnt]

Everything will be swept under the carpet.....The place in question is the Mayor's Pad... wink.gif wink.gif

 

A call to the local news may fix that.

[bigugli]

A call to the local news may fix that.

Let's give the authorities some time to work. This was only reported to them this morning.

 

Call the press in and the property owner will be hiding behind a wall of lawyers slowing everything down.

[vinnimon]

Kudos to you Bruce

[Dara]

You would be suprised how government agencys cover for each other. We have a perfect example of it going on here right now.

[tnt]

I agree, give the authorities time to do their thing. What I meant is if it dos get swept under the carpet then it's time to stir the pot a bit.

[HTHM]

The Niagara Escarpement commision would probably have something to say as well. That is one agency you DO NOT want to mess with!

[tjsa]

Let's give the authorities some time to work. This was only reported to them this morning.

 

Call the press in and the property owner will be hiding behind a wall of lawyers slowing everything down.

 

Yeah, until their opposition hears about it. Lets face it, if it was indeed the mayor who did this, he or she had opposition in the election. The opposition will jump all over this given the chance to. How much the party in question could deflect toward the contractor remains to be seen.

[JohnF]

Has it been confirmed that it's actually the mayor's property? I sorta assumed that the statement was made tongue in cheek and has gotten out of control. Maybe I was wrong but if not it's a stunt the press would be proud of.

 

JF

[Daplumma]

Thats a big no-no here also.A guy cut down a bunch of trees to get a better "view" of the Potomac a few years back.Monster sized fines for him.Good job,do you have any before pics?

Joe

[bigugli]

Thats a big no-no here also.A guy cut down a bunch of trees to get a better "view" of the Potomac a few years back.Monster sized fines for him.Good job,do you have any before pics?

Joe

The area was verdant and lush. Just teeming with life.

the beaver den

[BillM]

After seeing those last pics, what could actually spawn and survive in that muck?

[StoneFly]

After seeing those last pics, what could actually spawn and survive in that muck?

 

dont catfish spawn in that soup and live in it...? where is Dawgy to chime in on those creepy excuse for a fish?

[BillM]

dont catfish spawn in that soup and live in it...? where is Dawgy to chime in on those creepy excuse for a fish?

 

 

Yeah, I would think catfish could tolerate it, but I dunno what else.

[StoneFly]

Yeah, I would think catfish could tolerate it, but I dunno what else.

 

WHeeeeew...for a minute I though this was a real river....that being said,...there are no silt fences or any erosion bariers,.totally illegal, not too mention the change of landscape,....Having a bit of background in this area...I know it is a MAJOR issue!!!

[Nemo]

Bigugli, the MNR will be all over this guy. Been there done that when we built a dock.

 

I would love to see some before pictures if you have any... so would the MNR.

Edited March 22, 2010 by Nemo

[canadadude]

After seeing those last pics, what could actually spawn and survive in that muck?

Channel cats survive and in fact thrive in this pond, aswell as crappie, sunfish,largies it is abit of a mud hole at times. As for Lake Ontario fish using it for spawning I'm not so sure, it's tough for the fish to get into at the mouth, however Salmon use to run it during high water levels.I forgot to mention carp, there's some monster's in there aswell

 

The sad part is this dude ruined a big part of the natural shoreline,the stupid thing is by removing the trees,vines and ground cover his backyard will soon slump into the pond. Unless this guy spends a few thousand dollars in retaining walls and such he's going to have one big mess on his hands.

[bigugli]

The lake run fish came in last year in very large schools. Huge schools of shiners ( food for the bigger fish ), yellow and white perch, sheephead, carp, channel cats, even some bows.

 

Water looks fairly dark with mud most times, but so does the Grand, and it's teeming with life.