misfish Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) What distance do you guys use from your drag weight to your harness?( Im sure I,ll get lots of preferences)Also, has anyone ever tried running two of them? I mean like say one is 2 ft up from the wieght,the other like 4 or 5 above that. Thanks Edited July 6, 2016 by Brian B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I mostly use a 1/4 oz egg weight above my harness. I make my harnesses about 2ft. This will run no problem up to 14 or so feet. Deeper than that i use a bigger weight. For bottom bouncers i tie my harnesses about 4ft. I dont use bouncers unless its deeper than 15ft, or the bottom has steep structure. Never tried 2...wheels are turning now...lol S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted July 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I,ll be tying a bell sinker on the bottom and just be slow rolling the baldes ( using the toon, but I can get a good speed going using the flippers, even much more using the oars, just ask Terry) LOL Never tried 2...wheels are turning now...lolS. I,ll let ya know how it works bud. I just thought of covering more water colume. Im sure it would be effective. That would be a total of 4 hooks for my set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I always used Gapen Bait Walkers with a 3-4 foot leader to the harness, relatively snag proof on rocky bottoms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 4 foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Trolling in a Toon. Man those feet must just be pumping along. I used to dive and have U.S. Diver fins, what type of fin do you use Brian? As far as harnesses it depends on the length of harness. 3 feet behind a Dipsy Diver or Jet Diver. For bottom bouncing no more than 24". Since I moved out here shallow is 40 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 fins or oars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigugli Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 I use a 1/4 oz bullet a foot ahead of the harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted July 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Trolling in a Toon. Man those feet must just be pumping along. I used to dive and have U.S. Diver fins, what type of fin do you use Brian? As far as harnesses it depends on the length of harness. 3 feet behind a Dipsy Diver or Jet Diver. For bottom bouncing no more than 24". Since I moved out here shallow is 40 feet. You would be surprised how good I can move. I bought a set of deep divers this year at a garage sale. They get me moving pretty well. If I want to use the oars, I can get a good 12-14 ft between strokes. And thats not pushing it hard.The toon glides with ease. Edited July 6, 2016 by Brian B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 24 to 48 inches. Generally around 36. Never tried to run one above the other, let us know how it works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecmilley Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 The fish will tell u. Use rubber core sinkers in weights up to 3/8 and bottom.bouncers from 3/4 1.5 all depends on blades lead where u want the harness.in the column or it its a floater harness. Most common 1/4 rubber core 24 inches ahead of blades for me or 15 ft use bottom boincer on 3/4 and water over 20use 1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeytier Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 4 foot Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 I,ll be tying a bell sinker on the bottom and just be slow rolling the baldes ( using the toon, but I can get a good speed going using the flippers, even much more using the oars, just ask Terry) LOL So, like a 3 way rig? Sounds like a tangle waiting to happen lol I find they slide through weeds better with an egg weight or worm weight in line with the harness about 2ft above. If not that way, I'm using a bottom bouncer with a 4 ft harness. 1 ounce per 10ft of depth minimum. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) trial and error for me usually. I believe most of my harnesses are 36" and I just put weight on until I can feel bottom or I'm tickling to tops of the weeds. I usually like to let out at least 50' of line, and put the weight, usually split shot, just above the swivel where I attach the harness. I've never been a fan of bottom bouncers either. two harnesses just sounds like a nasty mess waiting to happen, but try it and tell us how it works! Edited July 7, 2016 by netminder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeXXington Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) Used a high / low rig a few times with a 3-way swivel. floating harness on the top. short lead (Watch the number of hooks) worm harness on the lower. heavier weight needed Edited July 7, 2016 by LeXXington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboy Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 I usually run about 3' above the spinner blade on my harnesses, troll at about 1mph and use the amount of weight for my bottom bouncer that has my line running at a 45 degree angle from the rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenner Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 I am trolling in about 11-14 feet tight to weed beds so I use a 1/4 oz. keel sinker in front of a 3 foot harness. I find the keel sinkers get through the weeds better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 I almost always use a lead on my harnesses of 3 to 2 feet. The type of bottom cover will factor in as well as how heavy your rig is, how fast you're moving and how much lift your blade (or blades) give the harness. The general rule of thumb is an ounce of weight for every 10 feet of depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) You would be surprised how good I can move. I bought a set of deep divers this year at a garage sale. They get me moving pretty well. If I want to use the oars, I can get a good 12-14 ft between strokes. And thats not pushing it hard.The toon glides with ease. If you want I have a pair of professional U.S. Diver fins for you. Let me know. Size large, 10 to 13. I have 2 pair. Edited July 7, 2016 by Old Ironmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted July 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 If you want I have a pair of professional U.S. Diver fins for you. Let me know. Size large, 10 to 13. I have 2 pair. WOW That would be cool Johnny. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 I almost always use a lead on my harnesses of 3 to 2 feet. The type of bottom cover will factor in as well as how heavy your rig is, how fast you're moving and how much lift your blade (or blades) give the harness. The general rule of thumb is an ounce of weight for every 10 feet of depth. In current double that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted July 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 I,ll just be dragging along weed lines. Should be good with my planned set up. The double set up of the harness was just a thought to try, and try I will. If it get all screwwed up, I,ll just cut it,bag it, and go single. No harm in trying. Like I said, it would be a 4 hook set up, so legal. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 I use a 1.5oz bouncer in the Ottawa river which had lots of current up to 30ft with no problems keep the angle and slow down till you feel the bottom .... Been using them for over 20yrs ...... Sometimes in the fall will go to a 2oz but never more than that .... It works just have to refine it and deadly way to catch bottom hugging eyes as well as Muskies you name it .... ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeytier Posted July 16, 2016 Report Share Posted July 16, 2016 Killer on specks and splake too, just run a couple split shot instead of a bouncer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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