Dave Bailey Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 It might help us if we looked at it with a different perspective. These people are not crossing the sea in rickety boats because they want to live in Europe or North America. They are doing it because they can no longer live in their homeland. We should be addressing the issues that cause wars, and cause people to flee. It isn't easy to look at an even larger and more complex situation, but sooner or later we must.
DRIFTER_016 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 My biggest issue with Canadian politics is the lack of being able to decline your ballot and having it mean something. I don't think there is any party worth voting for in this election, but if one declines their ballot it just gets lumped in with all other ballots that were not counted (i.e. spoiled etc.). In the US declined ballots are counted as that and it sends a message that those who declined fell there is no one worthy of their vote. As such I will be voting for anyone but the big three as I don't like any of their platforms. Would have voted NDP until Mulclair said he would make it a priority to reinstate the long gun registry!!! What a moron!!!! The Libs already wasted $2 billion so lets waste some more!!!
manitoubass2 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 My biggest issue with Canadian politics is the lack of being able to decline your ballot and having it mean something. I don't think there is any party worth voting for in this election, but if one declines their ballot it just gets lumped in with all other ballots that were not counted (i.e. spoiled etc.). In the US declined ballots are counted as that and it sends a message that those who declined fell there is no one worthy of their vote. As such I will be voting for anyone but the big three as I don't like any of their platforms. Would have voted NDP until Mulclair said he would make it a priority to reinstate the long gun registry!!! What a moron!!!! The Libs already wasted $2 billion so lets waste some more!!! I dont think voting in the US even matter anymore lol. Remember the scandel with dead people voting??? They also have the electoral college or whatever its called(something like that anyhow) Im with ya on the gun registry. Who was it that even started that nonsense? And how did it ever come to pass??? Unless your a criminal or mentally unstable why would anyone need to register a firearm???
netminder Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 yeah, the US is a clusterfunk to be sure. Ironically, with the GOP polling the guy getting the most support from the *thinks they're* hard right wing types is The Donald, who aside from being a loud mouthed schnook actually has some pretty progressive policies he'd supposedly like to push. Unfortunately for them, even the Democrats are further right wing than the Canadian Conservatives, and the one guy who could pull them back, Bernie Sanders, doesn't have enough of a household name to gain any traction in the primaries. Of course everyone's heard of "Clinton" and "Trump" so of course they would poll as the favourites. I just thank god I don't have to put up with that dog and pony show type politics. But that's enough of my American rant - I know there are a few Americans on this board and don't want to start anything
manitoubass2 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 yeah, the US is a clusterfunk to be sure. Ironically, with the GOP polling the guy getting the most support from the *thinks they're* hard right wing types is The Donald, who aside from being a loud mouthed schnook actually has some pretty progressive policies he'd supposedly like to push. Unfortunately for them, even the Democrats are further right wing than the Canadian Conservatives, and the one guy who could pull them back, Bernie Sanders, doesn't have enough of a household name to gain any traction in the primaries. Of course everyone's heard of "Clinton" and "Trump" so of course they would poll as the favourites. I just thank god I don't have to put up with that dog and pony show type politics. But that's enough of my American rant - I know there are a few Americans on this board and don't want to start anything If voting mattered in the US, the people lost out big time not voting in RON Paul(not rand) In canada i honestly dont know who to vote for? They are all just schills and businessmen. We need someone that isnt corperate affiliated and ACTUALLY loves this country
lookinforwalleye Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 What makes you think any of the three don`t love this country?
manitoubass2 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 What makes you think any of the three don`t love this country? Actions... Our next PM will be whomever england and the US want in power. My bets harper or trudeau Good lil puppets
glen Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 Ya I run everything I love though the gutter.
manitoubass2 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 This isnt the old days my friend. The government is nothing but a corperate mask. It wont change till we vote with guns. See my post on NATO, and you can include the UN in there too. You see saudi arabia is now the UN head of humans rights panel??? They behead people for crying out loud. Governments in almost every country have WAY overstepped the boundries.
Dave Bailey Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) My biggest issue with Canadian politics is the lack of being able to decline your ballot and having it mean something. I don't think there is any party worth voting for in this election, but if one declines their ballot it just gets lumped in with all other ballots that were not counted (i.e. spoiled etc.). In the US declined ballots are counted as that and it sends a message that those who declined fell there is no one worthy of their vote. I believe that if you hand your ballot back to the electoral official and say "I refuse this ballot", it has to be counted as a refused ballot, not lumped in with the others. Edited September 21, 2015 by Dave Bailey
DRIFTER_016 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 I believe that if you hand your ballot back to the electoral official and say "I refuse this ballot", it has to be counted as a refused ballot, not lumped in with the others. Nope, I looked into it. It's lumped in with all the other uncounted ballots.
SirCranksalot Posted September 21, 2015 Author Report Posted September 21, 2015 If you vote for the Rhinoseros(sp?) party it must count as a refused ballot, or at least a protest vote. If I have a chance I'll vote for the Maxist-Lennonist party. I've always been a big fan of John Lennon and Groucho!!
Sinker Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 I bet youd get a lot more voters in this country if you could refuse to vote and make it count. I know I would. S.
manitoubass2 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 I bet youd get a lot more voters in this country if you could refuse to vote and make it count. I know I would. S. ???
Gerritt Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 My biggest issue with Canadian politics is the lack of being able to decline your ballot and having it mean something. I don't think there is any party worth voting for in this election, but if one declines their ballot it just gets lumped in with all other ballots that were not counted (i.e. spoiled etc.). In the US declined ballots are counted as that and it sends a message that those who declined fell there is no one worthy of their vote. As such I will be voting for anyone but the big three as I don't like any of their platforms. Would have voted NDP until Mulclair said he would make it a priority to reinstate the long gun registry!!! What a moron!!!! The Libs already wasted $2 billion so lets waste some more!!! yessir! I'll be doing the same!
Old Ironmaker Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 Beore I go to the polling booth to mark my ballot I ask these questions. Am I better or worse off than before the last election? Is it about the same? Has there been any change for the better or worse? Has the previous party or elected leader made any big mistakes that effect my family today? Then I always think about " better the Devil you know than the Devil you don't". I called on my member for Parliament to help in an issue I was having with my CPP. Her office came through for me, quickly. That carries weight for me.
John Bacon Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 Our next PM will be whomever england and the US want in power. How exactly will England and the U.S. control who wins the election?
wkrp Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 If you are old stock , you vote conservative. If you are new stock , you vote liberal, if you are out of stock , you vote ndp. Simple
Gerritt Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 If you are old stock , you vote conservative. If you are new stock , you vote liberal, if you are out of stock , you vote ndp. Simple Uhmmmm no.
Canuck2fan Posted September 21, 2015 Report Posted September 21, 2015 Valid point; but, Canada fared quite well compared to other countries, Ontario has fared very poorly compared to other provinces. Apparently the forecasts show we are leading the way now.... LOL http://www.investinontario.com/spotlights/ontario-lead-canadas-economic-growth-2015-and-2016
manitoubass2 Posted September 22, 2015 Report Posted September 22, 2015 How exactly will England and the U.S. control who wins the election? Money/globalists/monarchy
John Bacon Posted September 22, 2015 Report Posted September 22, 2015 Apparently the forecasts show we are leading the way now.... LOL http://www.investinontario.com/spotlights/ontario-lead-canadas-economic-growth-2015-and-2016 Yeah, if you cherry pick a short time frame. How has Ontario done over the last 10 years versus the rest of Canada?
John Bacon Posted September 22, 2015 Report Posted September 22, 2015 Money/globalists/monarchy Whose money had how does it help the party of their choice? Only individuals, not corporations or organizations, can donate to a federal party or candidate. How do globalists and or monarchy help a party win?
limeyangler Posted September 22, 2015 Report Posted September 22, 2015 Whose money had how does it help the party of their choice? Only individuals, not corporations or organizations, can donate to a federal party or candidate. How do globalists and or monarchy help a party win? Didn't you know? The Globalists and monarchy are a race of shapeshifting Aliens that control our governments and minds with chem trails!
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