fishboy Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 The Gull and Burnt watershed lakes are all on the rise..they're back to at worst the historic low levels for this time of year and many are moving up to the historic average, so there's still hope...some rain each day in the Haliburton weather forecast this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Yes I see there is rain in the forecast for the next 3-4 days !!! I hope it does rain we need it !!! Plus we have had a mandatory fire ban in place for a few weeks now and will continue for the rest of the month here in the kawarthas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.brock Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 There's crazy low water in Haliburton like Shawn said so the Gull and Burnt aren't going to be much help without rain. Anybody know what happened? The water level was fine in the fall, but dropped when the lakes were ice covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudash Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 was at Paudash near Bancroft and the levels were normal for this time of year but everything on the way looked really low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singingdog Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 It's not even at the safe navigation levels yet on the graphs at parks canada !!!!!! I'm really suprised those guys can find their own way to work in the morning !!!! It's how clueless they are !!!!! We are atill waiting for the non- existant snow pack to come down from Haliburton !!!! That's one excuse they told me !!!! Hahaha ...... THERE IS NO SNOW OR WATER IN HALIBURTON EITHER !!!!!!! There is NO water Comming from anywhere ....... Wow, I guess that using a whole bunch of exclamation points passes for informed debate I know some of "those guys": some of the nicest folks you could hope to know, and they take their work very seriously. Easy to sit and slag them from behind your computer screen, with virtually no understanding of the conditions that led to what is happening right now. They have "no win" jobs: if they hold water back, the folks downstream moan about the lack of water. If they let water through, the cottagers on the upper lakes moan about their lake being low. If the rivers are running high in the spring, everyone in Minden starts panicking, remembering the big flood. No matter what they do, someone wants to call an inquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom McCutcheon Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Couldn't agree more Dog. The levels at my dock (Pigeon Lake) are almost to summer levels. About 6 inches below normal and still rising slowly. Seems like the Sky Has Not Fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Wow, I guess that using a whole bunch of exclamation points passes for informed debate I know some of "those guys": some of the nicest folks you could hope to know, and they take their work very seriously. Easy to sit and slag them from behind your computer screen, with virtually no understanding of the conditions that led to what is happening right now. They have "no win" jobs: if they hold water back, the folks downstream moan about the lack of water. If they let water through, the cottagers on the upper lakes moan about their lake being low. If the rivers are running high in the spring, everyone in Minden starts panicking, remembering the big flood. No matter what they do, someone wants to call an inquiry. Well, being nice folks is no excuse, sorry. The conditions we had this spring were VERY easy to predict. No rain in the forcast, and below normal snow pack....it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Someone was sleeping at the switch. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I should have kept the pic of Harris Boat Works last year. Likely has something to do with this years mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Well, being nice folks is no excuse, sorry. The conditions we had this spring were VERY easy to predict. No rain in the forcast, and below normal snow pack....it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Someone was sleeping at the switch. S. If there's a shortage of water there's not much Parks Canada can do to fix it. So far the feds are unable to control the weather, although Harper is such a control freak he probably has folks working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 So, who let all the water out if it wasnt Parks Canada?? S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 You should do a vid of who let the dogs I mean water out. What are the odds they could get it right. 10% ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Yes, we are down a bit from summer levels on Sturgeon Lake, at least it is coming up slowly. What is the right answer? Do you drop the water levels thinking that the melt and rain will cause a dump of water in the system or keep the levels higher and hope that a fast melt and dump of rain won't flood out homes and cause millions in damages! Levels were low this spring but I didn't hear of one faimily loosing everything they had to flooding because some idiot didn't let the water out soon enough! It's easy to whine, try predicting the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 So, who let all the water out if it wasnt Parks Canada?? S. There are two sides to the equasion. Water inputs, and water outputs. If the inputs are down, there may not be much they can do. For Toronto, I don't recall having one single significant rainfall so far this spring. We have had a few light showers, but nothing significant. I also don't recall getting any snow in January. Has the rest of Ontario had similar weather? If Toronto is any indication, the water inputs from snow melt is well below average and the water inputs from spring rain has been virtually non-existant. Lake Ontario levels are also way down from pervious springs. I think the issue may be a lack on inputs rather than an excess of outputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxie Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Your aim was a bit off when you blamed the prov gov't though!! Naw. I think I've got it nailed down tight. If there is an issue isn't it up to the provincial minister in charge of that portfolio to raise an alarm to his federal counterpart? Are they not entrusted to serve on behalf of our best interest(s)? The economic challenges the world has endured not withstanding but these bozos have done more to turn this once great province upside down in just over a decade than previous governments in Ontarios' history. When teaching anal sex to elementary students and selling beer in grocery stores is front page news it doesn't take a school trustee to do the math. Better yet scratch the school trustee doin math. She and those of her ilk (nothing to do with her sexual orientation) are a big part of everything that is wrong with Ontario right now. Hope this clears the water a bit. Edited April 19, 2015 by moxie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxie Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Never mind. Edited April 19, 2015 by moxie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudash Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Was on Paudash yesterday and everything was normal, was on Dalrymple today and everything was normal for this time of year as well. Apparently the great lakes are higher this spring then they have been in years. Looks like the only issue is with the Trent system because everything I have seen on that has been crazy low. With all the flooding the past few years I can understand them letting more water out in the fall by February they knew the snow level was way down so they should have restricted the out flow sooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.brock Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 The levels were normal in the fall. December was warm. Jan, Feb and March were very cold. The water went down while the lakes were ice covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Heavy rains are in the forecast. It's a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Never mind. This post makes a lot more sense than the one above it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 High water or low water, my boat still floats and I must be careful either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboy Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Naw. I think I've got it nailed down tight. If there is an issue isn't it up to the provincial minister in charge of that portfolio to raise an alarm to his federal counterpart? Are they not entrusted to serve on behalf of our best interest(s)? The economic challenges the world has endured not withstanding but these bozos have done more to turn this once great province upside down in just over a decade than previous governments in Ontarios' history. When teaching anal sex to elementary students and selling beer in grocery stores is front page news it doesn't take a school trustee to do the math. Better yet scratch the school trustee doin math. She and those of her ilk (nothing to do with her sexual orientation) are a big part of everything that is wrong with Ontario right now. Hope this clears the water a bit. huh?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted April 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 There are two sides to the equasion. Water inputs, and water outputs. If the inputs are down, there may not be much they can do. For Toronto, I don't recall having one single significant rainfall so far this spring. We have had a few light showers, but nothing significant. I also don't recall getting any snow in January. Has the rest of Ontario had similar weather? If Toronto is any indication, the water inputs from snow melt is well below average and the water inputs from spring rain has been virtually non-existant. Lake Ontario levels are also way down from pervious springs. I think the issue may be a lack on inputs rather than an excess of outputs. Thiss system iis controlled by dams. They knew in march there was no snow pack to melt, but still left the logs out of the dams. Hopefully the rains do the trick. I understand its a tricky job, but after working in water resources, its not hard to figure out. These guys have LOTS of resources when it comes to calculating run off and melt. The only irradical is weather, and I understand its unpredictable, but why is it they seem to screw this up EVERY year??? I will admit, it could be worse. Flooding is never good, and neither is releasing water to leave fish spawn high and dry. I guess we'll see if they can open the locks by May 15th. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Apparently the great lakes are higher this spring then they have been in years. Lake Ontario isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Lake Ontario is down about 24" from this time last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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