captpierre Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Just finished watching Charlie do his thing. It's a good thing he's a good teacher and I often learn a thing or 2. But it's so annoying to hear him so blatantly promote his sponsors over and over ........ peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Kinda like most fishing shows out there unfortunately (Sans a few exceptions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 They have to do it to pay the bills these days. It was never as bad as this when I was a kid, you could watch a show without having product rammed down your throat all through it, they just went to a tackle talk type of segment where they pumped the product, and then back to the show. I really like fishfull thinking, but I can't watch most of the shows these days for all the product placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landry Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I think careful product placement and stealth advertising is more effective than talking about the product - especially to the level he does. He's a really good guy and a good angler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracokaos Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I think careful product placement and stealth advertising is more effective than talking about the product - especially to the level he does. He's a really good guy and a good angler. Completely agree Laundry, I don't remember the last time I went to look or buy a product because someone was promoting it hard. But watching a person using the product and explaining how it worked and why it was different from other products is usually what peaks my interest. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grt1 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 he has some good tips on his show but I agree, the constant barrage of his pitching the products is enough to turn you off, someone should tell him to cool it a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancur373 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I get what you guys are saying but...If someone were gonna give me a brand new boat, truck, and all the gear and tackle I could ever use, I'd promote the hell out of it too. Everybody gots bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 For some reason I have the WFN on my TV the last few days don`t no why because I would never sub to it but I put on a show yesterday and it was laughable...2 dolts dressed in shirts that looked like wall paper from the 70`s in a Bass boat blazoned with every advert sticker you could think of catching 3-3.5 pound bass yelling and screaming like a couple of girls trying to convince me that the 3 pounder they just caught is really 5 pounds!!!! You guys really watch that crap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 That the way it goes. People can skip commercials so easily these todays. Prime time tv shows and big box-office movies have product placement all the time now. Some are more subtle then others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gino Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 For some reason I have the WFN on my TV the last few days don`t no why because I would never sub to it but I put on a show yesterday and it was laughable...2 dolts dressed in shirts that looked like wall paper from the 70`s in a Bass boat blazoned with every advert sticker you could think of catching 3-3.5 pound bass yelling and screaming like a couple of girls trying to convince me that the 3 pounder they just caught is really 5 pounds!!!! You guys really watch that crap.... free preview until April 30th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musky666 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Uncut Angling on youtube- trumps em all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Uncut Angling on youtube- trumps em all... That kid is great, I really enjoy his segments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I see his wife is riding shot gun now. I'm usually interested in some of the things they promote.Like said when they take the time to show you how to use it. Dave Mercer is the worst for me.Need to go and get every lure he uses in his show lol.Thank goodness most times it's only one lure a show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 uncut is the best, they have a refreshing format...lots of good stuff on youtube that beats all the crap on WFN...I always thought Al Linder did a good job explaining what/how he was using a product without being too excessive on the cheesy advertising...the next bite is pretty good too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landry Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 If I was a manufacturer I would want product placement and subtle promos. I would not want my product shared by a product checkout girl basically. That is exactly what some fishing show guys are. It's so blatant and over the top that it's hard to believe a new product is truly something I need. It actually makes me more cynical and suspicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'm cool with plugging a sponsor.. But Charlie says "seagar" about a hundred times a show.... He makes it seem like its impossible to catch fish without it and that it should be used in all situations.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mills Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 These guys are liked trained seals Jeremy Smith just did a 360 pirouette while holding a 45" musky just so he could get the LUND logo on the bow seat in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggie Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I wonder how the sponsors feel about Charlie's need to constantly modify their product. It's very self serving and it reflects poorly on the original product. Is nothing ever good enough right out of the package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigdritchie Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) There's a big difference between a helpful product mention (lets face it, people want to know what the host is using) and a flat-out suck-and-blow, which - lets be honest - is what most of these shows really are. "We're out in 90 feet of water today folks, and I tell ya, I would never have caught this fish without my dependable Fram oil filter," said the host on one program I recently saw. I'm not making that up. Come on man, really? That's just plain insulting. I think I'm of reasonable intelligence ... so don't expect me to believe that unless I go buy a Fram oil filter, I'll never be able to catch average-sized lakers off the Niagara bar. I don't have a Fram oil filer now, and I already catch lakers bigger than what this TV Hero was getting. Is there a message in that, maybe? Nor do I need to hear the sponsor's name repeated 17 times in a 22 minute program, as well as having the logo show up across the bottom of my screen in flashing graphics, oh and of course all the while the host is wearing an obnoxiously loud shirt with the same logo stenciled across his chest in eight inch high fluorescent letters. You know, just in case I missed the glow-in-the-dark wrap with the same sponsor logo all across his boat, and all over his truck in the obligatory launch ramp shot (because to get the $50 discount on his lease he agreed to show the truck in all 13 episodes). Do they really think we're that stupid? Apparently they do. TV fishing shows can be expensive to produce, and product sponsorship has always been a part of them. Done well, it provides legitimate value. But there's a fine line between being genuinely helpful, and turning your program into a non-stop sales pitch. Some hosts do a great job, they may approach that line but they never seem to cross it. Others - the crappy ones - don't cross the line so much as pole vault right over it. Edited April 6, 2014 by Craig_Ritchie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm going for ice out pike today, so at 4am i woke up to watch a few vids to get the juices flowing. Ended up watching uncut angling bloopers and i woke up half the house i was laughing so hard! I love that show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limeyangler Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I was thinking about this the other day, just day dreaming of the day i have my own fishing show…lol….I figured by the time that happens my sponsors would likely be, Preparation H, Depend, Viagra, Shoppers Drug Mart, Lifecall, Deep Heat, Pfizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbait22 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I honestly can't tell which parts are commercial and show. In a half hour show there is 8 minutes of commercials (22 minutes of actual fishing show), part of that is eaten up by the intro and outro. Then they throw in more product talk e.g., Muskol, Cooper tires, Ram trucks. Overall there is maybe 10 minutes of fishing. Not all shows do this to the same degree. Prefer to watch other shows including the wealth of online stuff e.g., Uncut and New Fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I watched facts if fishing today and i learned one thing, its hard to catch fish with your lure stuck to your forehead, hahaha. Only shows i really like are the next bite and uncut angling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishwilly Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I agree about uncut angling. The kid catches tons of fish and explains his techniques well. This kind of show is the future of fishing on tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 There are lots of YouTube channels that are great... Thecarpcatcher In depth outdoors Lindners Tony roach Keys outdoors Etc... Etc... I spend a lot of my viewing time online now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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