Terry Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 and more then just fishermen, the native reserves many of which are on islands depend on ice roads to get back and forth in the winter.... ice roads move building supplies and buildings have been see being moved across the ice, logs are moved on ice roads...lets hope the gov. leaves ice access alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutnMuskieHunter Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 (edited) "I am surprised that the government has not banned the use of personal vehicles on the ice." Statements like that are why we are losing all our rights. Can't believe the negative feedback here from fisherman. We're always out on the lakes around here in winter be it fishing or just for fun, many snowmobile trails are across the lakes. He hit a bad spot and sure it could of been worse, but no different than hitting an icy spot on the highway and losing it. Commonsense and a little bit of caution goes a long way. As for the stupid ones who go out when the ice isn't thick or unsafe, well those people will be doing something stupid on the roads if they weren't on the lake.You can't govern stupidness. Good to here you were OK, Cityfisher, I for one have been driving on the lakes for 20 years, and haven't had any problems, but do know the limitations of when to and not to. Don't let one bad experience ruin it for you forever. Well said ....it's easy to sit in front of a computer and criticise others and there bad fortunes!! Glad to hear you're OK cityfisher....if your truck is a 4x4, I would suggest calling your insurance company to see if you have coverage....I just changed companies and specifically asked if I was covered in the event that my ATV, sled or F-150 went through the ice....ANSWER WAS YES....strangely, they told me that they DON"T cover amphibious vehicles though...It's worth a try bud!! Edited March 16, 2008 by TroutnMuskieHunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whopper Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 I've looked at the pictures a few times and still can't find the truck...... Cory your blind ...even Cliff saw the truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattletrap2 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Glad things worked out ok for you cityfisher! Even with the expensive tow, it could have been a lot worse. I nearly put my snowblower through the ice this year...and that was scarey enough for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snagmaster Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 most important thing is that your alright bro. could have happened to anyone...I was on the ice the day before in the same area and went out 12km out and back with no problems at all...It just goes to show how fast cracks can open up with a warm front and alot of sun. ....when i got out there on friday there was ZERO slush whole out there and the ice conditions were fine. when I left at 530 there were a few big slush wholes closer to shore and the shoreline parking lot was like a swimming pool....My advice was the conditions were not the greatest and that they were only going to get worse but.......I was really surprised however that he went down 8km out...conditions closer to shore were much worse.....there was hundreds of trucks out there on saturday and only a couple had problems from what i hear...wrong place wrong time....oh well pretty soon the boat will be out and wont have to worrie about questionable ice anymore... As for people saying it is wrong to drive a vehicle on the ice .....thats just non sence....up north in areas like temagami its a way of life ...its the only way people can get to where they got to go....maybe people from the city are not use to it but vehicles should def not be banned from going on the ice in my opinion....you just have to know when its safe and take the right percausions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hundreds make it and no one even blinks an eye, one has a mishap and it's like flies on ......! go figure! Oh and Stoty; there is a big difference between sympathy & empathy! Don't confuse them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfisher Posted March 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 shes drying out well !! ... Had heaters and wetvac sucking out the water for most of lastnight and today... Looking good !! after I took 15-20 litres from the carpet/body. Ill be back on the ice next season as always...with my atv only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehg Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Live and learn! The main thing is your alive and well, the material stuff can be replaced. No doubt you'll be cautious next time if you try again. ehg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravinerat Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Well City fisher although it was a bundle to get out we really have to thank guys like Eugine for being out there and willing to do it. Just think if you vehicle went under his could have been pulled right in too. When I frist pulled up I though "geese this doesn't look good". But once I walked over I could see it was worse than I thought. I'm really glad it all truned out for the good. Hey and what about that Photographer Eh? Lol. You weren't the only one handing cash to Eugine on Sat. RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry2Rs Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Call the insurance company and let them get it fixed for you. I had a friend back my car into a lake one time and State Farm fixed everything no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Same hole?? and does Eugene cut this with a saw or have a bubbler going? LOL What was the tow charge btw... bet no worse than the vultures on the 400 at $300+ ..and I'm not sure where people are reading their policies.. but there's nothing in mine that says where I can drive. One thing I always "luv" about OFC... the only place a guy that's already feeling down can get hammered a few more notches down. Guess I'm from the shallow end of the gene pool too.... Dang.. so's Ron and a lot of other OFC'rs here. Wonder why many quit posting. Guess we should start shuttling all this stuff out to the island for no good reason...since it's so unsafe to drive on 2 feet of ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Sorry guys I did not mean to offend anyone go ahead and keep running your rigs on unsafe ice I am sure Eugene appreciates the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustic-Fisher Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Wow!!! Thats happened too many times this year out there!!! Glad it worked out for ya! Rf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoty Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Cliff, I am quite clear on the difference between them. No matter how you look at it.....(in my opinion) if your willing to take a vehicle out on the ice, you better be willing to lose it as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meely Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Wow....... Almost a "Luca Brazzi" special...... Glad it all worked out for ya !! Meely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love2fishhave2work Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I have always wondered how guys trying to catch a few fish would risk life limb and car. I thought about this one for a while and finaly got it. This has to be it. Price of Perch = $8.99/pound Price of Whitefish = $9.99/pound Price of Trout = $12.99/pound Average cost of a new Grand Charakee = $40,000 Weight of a new Gran Charakee = 4261 pounds Here is my eurika moment Therefore Price of a new truck = $9.38/pound Now I get it. This one is easy. Price of a ticked off wife when you get home = PRICELESS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I have been driving my vehicle onto the ice for many years, with, knock on wood, no problems. When I was out there two weekends past, there must have been at least 200 other vehicles out there as well. There are no sure fire safe ice conditions, but there are no sure fire safe anything any more. so you hit a bad spot, bad luck to you. You got 'er out, your safe and sound, chalk it up to experience, but don't give up the sport! Lookin at Perchin on Friday and planning at this time, to drive out to my spot. Changing conditions will determin my final plans, but come on folks, it's a highway out there and on guy got unlucky/ really lucky! I wonder how some of you guys ever make it out of the house?! HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityfisher Posted March 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Thanks Headhunter ! you got it bang on. A lot of people make comments and have no idea. This is not the first time ive driven on the ice.. 5-6 times this year with the truck and 10+ times with the atv... I got unlucky and Ill pay for it .. O well.. its just money. I contimplated posting it in the first place but thought I rather warn people that SH** does happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey123 Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Glad to hear that you are alright. Don't worry about the preachers here, it is a day that you will never forget. My wife and I had a similar experience in Huntsville Area 3 years ago, minus any outside help. I borrowed some guys D9 Catterpillar and winched it out myself. And by borrow I mean used it with out his permission and promptly returned it when we were done, alone with $20.00 in the viser for the diesel I used. We still talk about this (acctually yesterday we were laughing about it on the way back from Port Loring). I think the experinces are what we talk about long afterwards, not the fish or the "spot" etc. Hope everything works out with the electrical. Best regards, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I'm glad you posted it Cityfisher. It just goes to show you that one person driving out there can be just fine, while another can hit a bad spot very easily and not be fine. I agree with HH and wonder myself if some of the people who leave bad comments have nothing better to do. I think that there should be a new rule. Before you post, there is a 5 minute delay so the person can think about whether he or she has ever done anything remotely close to the topic, how they would feel in the same situation and whether or not they would say the same thing to the person's face!!! Joey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyb Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 (edited) It also seems that the negative posters disappear quicly, while the supportive ones stick around. Just another reason, IMHO, that this board sticks around...there's a solid bunch of supportive sportsmen/women. Really glad to see you got that beautiful Jeep, along with yourself and those with you, out of the hole safe and sound, Cityfisher. Edited March 17, 2008 by johnnyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookset Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Before you post, there is a 5 minute delay so the person can think about whether he or she has ever done anything remotely close to the topic, how they would feel in the same situation and whether or not they would say the same thing to the person's face!!! Joey Great point Joey. Glad it all worked out OK for you Cityfisher. Some days...Poo happens. Hookset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Eugene's not complaining LOL and anything you can walk away from is good news, heckuva alot better than sitting on the bottom of Simcoe. Reasonable price is anything less than salvage recovery (which I think comes with a 'pollution' fine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJQ Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Scary stuff.. worked out though.... like it has been said.. it could have been much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I'm glad you posted it Cityfisher. It just goes to show you that one person driving out there can be just fine, while another can hit a bad spot very easily and not be fine. I agree with HH and wonder myself if some of the people who leave bad comments have nothing better to do. I think that there should be a new rule. Before you post, there is a 5 minute delay so the person can think about whether he or she has ever done anything remotely close to the topic, how they would feel in the same situation and whether or not they would say the same thing to the person's face!!! Joey Well Joey and others I don`t think anybody here was too hard on Cityfisher and his poor judgment/misfortune, every year we hear stories of people,snowmobiles,trucks that go through the ice and there is usually a handful of people who pay with their lives and they leave behind loved ones who have to deal with the tragedy. It usually happens early in the season and late in the season I think most would agree that this time of year taking a vehicle out on the ice is a gamble. Warmer days ice shifting and cracking partial freezing and thawing again is a recipe for a potential disaster. I can assure you I always think about what I am posting and I can also assure you I have never taken a vehicle out on the ice and I never will it`s a risk reward thing. When a member posts a topic and expects replies they should do it with the understanding that all the responses might not be of the golly gee you poor baby type some may actually respond with what they think and that`s what makes a bulletin board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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