porkpie Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I haven't found a snell knot I like yet. Some of the recommended snell knots will fail given enough time. Any recommendations? Does the nail knot tool help with a good snell? Very seldom had a snell fail. Surprised to hear. What kind of line are you using for harnesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) A dab of gorilla glue solves the issue quick You can also get alot of wild action on plastics if you just use a palomar knot Edited April 29, 2016 by manitoubass2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 I haven't found a snell knot I like yet. Some of the recommended snell knots will fail given enough time. Any recommendations? Does the nail knot tool help with a good snell? I use this one. http://www.steelheader.net/knots/whip_finish.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokercrafty Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 A dab of gorilla glue solves the issue quick You can also get alot of wild action on plastics if you just use a palomar knot Just starting to use the Palomar, and love it. Simple, strong, and effective, with 100% strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Just starting to use the Palomar, and love it. Simple, strong, and effective, with 100% strength. Yessir! I did a bunch about 3 years ago and it certainly is easier and its effective. But snelling is fun! Just not out in the boat in wind lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 palomer all the way, its also great for tying drop shot hooks to line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted April 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 They all seem to tie them like this. When I tie the swivel, I do palomar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) To make your harnesses "swim" right, you have to use a snell knot.....unless your only using one hook. I snell the first one, and clinch the end hook. I use improved clinch for everything except the first hook on a harness. I can't wait to drag harnesses.....still two weeks for me here. S. Edited April 29, 2016 by Sinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggie Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Very seldom had a snell fail. Surprised to hear. What kind of line are you using for harnesses? 15 lb fluoro seaguar I believe. It's not the first snell at the end of the line that failed. The second hook seems to come unsnelled once in a while and slides down to the terminal hook. That's why I was wondering about the style of snell I'm using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggie Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 YUP that's the snelling I use Brian B and the middle hook will slide freely on the line if the knot is given slack such as during the process of unhooking a fish. I've never had the terminal hook unravel but the middle hook has come loose and ended up at the terminal hook several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggie Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Sinker that's what I ended up doing because I was concerned the termainal snell would fail as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpierre Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Last year opener in div17. Was slow in usual spots only hit 3 4 fish all morning. On a hunch starting working inside weed edge in 3 ft of water in middle of day was hammer time. Watching. Big eyes chase your Bucktail and inhale it is awesome So that's where they were ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Ive never ever had a snell do that. Are you sure your tying it right? I use harnesses A LOT. Pretty much from the time walleye season opens until hunting season and never ever had that happen. I use 17lb up to 20lb mono for mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaspumper Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Ive never ever had a snell do that. Are you sure your tying it right? I use harnesses A LOT. Pretty much from the time walleye season opens until hunting season and never ever had that happen. I use 17lb up to 20lb mono for mine. X 2 Iv'e never had a snell fail on my harnesses, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecmilley Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I was taught to use snell knots when making harness, never really had issues with them, not that I get any use these days from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I only use single hook so palomar suffices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggie Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Well now that you guys mention it; I'm using lighter line for the terminal portion of the harness. There's so much wood in the Ottawa River I started using lighter leaders like you do in steelheading. I don't care about the harness really I just hate backing the boat up and wrestling with the heavy leader material to breakoff off of the snag. It's the 6lb fluoro that comes unsnelled. Maybe it's a problem using lighter line ..... it's too supple perhaps? I started using the egg knot that steelheaders use for the terminal hook and then the standard snell for the middle hook. I've never lost a fish because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Do more wraps with lighter line. Like 6-8 instead of 5 or 6. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggie Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 yeah that would help. On a different note, What order do you fish the various spinner blades throughout the season. I start with indiana #4 in spring and then move to colorado blades by june with the willow leaf blade in the warmest part of the summer. Anyone else use that order primarily? i like the brass and nickel colours first then I move to perch colours after that with hot colours next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Silver hammered colorado blades with red beads has caught me every kind of fish that swims. I hardly every use any other colour. Might switch to a gold blade if silver isn't working, or a chartreuse if the water is dirty. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Silver hammered colorado blades with red beads has caught me every kind of fish that swims. I hardly every use any other colour. Might switch to a gold blade if silver isn't working, or a chartreuse if the water is dirty. S. I use hammered copper and black beads(90%of the time) Works even in muddy water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I don't own harnesses with anything other than Colorado blades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder Posted May 2, 2016 Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 I use hammered copper and black beads(90%of the time) Works even in muddy water Copper with red beads has always been the ticket with me. Caught everything from pickeral, bass, pike, perch, sunfish, brown bullhead.... I fish in some fairly heavily stained waters too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 I use hammered copper and black beads(90%of the time) Works even in muddy water Try adding one red bead at the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Farmer Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Just one tip, watch for line burn. Mostly fishing erie for Walleye I always check. Large blades and clevises do burn your line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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