AKRISONER Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Posted September 22, 2014 got a response from animal control, they have told me to either attain a license plate or the owners physical address. It is a shame that bad apples ruin the bunch. Theres a lot of great pet owners that I see every day. their dogs are well behaved and very friendly. Unfortunate that one trouble dog owner, the whole party gets ruined. To be continued....
porkpie Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Good for you. Reporting it is the best way to deal with it! Edited September 22, 2014 by porkpie
SirWhite Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Unfortunately all you can do is carry a big stick..... and walk softly. However the fact that it has happened before really hurts your case since you keep going back. If your defending yourself to the point of harming another you must show "due diligence" in not letting it happen again. As in, you yourself could have prevented this from happening. I'm no Lawyer, but I know this to be fact and precedented. (Obviously in the case something violent happens in the near future) Edited September 22, 2014 by SirWhite
AKRISONER Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Posted September 22, 2014 i could see your point if I was putting myself in this situation. But walking freely through public space, and then having someone come and engage you unprovoked is a hard sell. It isnt much different than if she somehow ran into me in a completely different location, in no way did i enter into the scenario, i was placed into it. I even attempted to remove myself from the situation prior to it occurring and was followed and attacked.
bow slayer Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 pepper spray repellent for dogs will do wonders......if you know someone from CP they may help you out....if not you can buy it at outdoors stores
woodenboater Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) report her and her dogs, unfortunately her lack of control will be a downside for the dogs imo. no idea why she hasn't muzzled the attacker and I would have done the same...a swift hard kick. sorry but if it's attacking my dog or anyone with me, all bets are off and the dog pays for owner's problems. I've owned dogs most of my early life so that laying the boots to a dog would be tough but necessary. again, report her as someone's dog is going to ket mauled if she's not dealt with by by law officers. -sorry, didn't read the full thread before posting maybe give the other dog owners a heads up as well so they can make sure they're in full compliance. Edited September 22, 2014 by woodenboater
davey buoy Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 Reporting is the best,always carry a cane. Loved dog parks till recently when Stella passed on .She was the rock,kept Tonka and Gordy in line. Never a problem,being a big dog she was never really approached. Always had them on leash just in case.Miss taking Tonka and Gordy to the park.He's not the same,and would never put him in a environment like that.That is being responsible as far as I'm concerned. Try to take a picture or two as well,if someone is with you,that holds a lot of weight I'm sure.
mikeh Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) I think you did the right thing calling animal control, did they take any info from you like the time she goes to the park,type of dogs she has? it would be nice if she muzzled it when in the dog park area also if he does attack again get her info as you want to see if the dog has had it's shots Edited September 22, 2014 by mikeh
aplumma Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 If you bring some kind of offensive weapon ( bat, Pepper Spray, Vinegar etc.) to the dog park and you use it on a dog that has previously attacked you dog then it is premeditated malicious wounding of the dog in the courts eyes. The self defense of preservation is thrown out the window when you returned and allowed your dog off leash in an area controlled by a leash on law. Be careful on some of the advise you choose to follow the legal system will bite you in the butt sometimes. Art
porkpie Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 Some of the info you have recieved is questionable. Some doesn't even apply to Canada. You have done the best thing you possibly could so far, which is report it. Ensure you follow up with them, and if possible try to provide them with the info requested. It pays to be the squeaky wheel sometimes.
Terry Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 note one person said take a bat a glove and ball, all used to play a game, but if a crazed dog attacked, you would be crazy to to use what you have on hand
aplumma Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 Sorry I used the word Court instead of Magistrate my bad I guess the rest of the advise is wrong also. Reporting the offense is the correct approach taking the law into your own hands when both parties are doing something illegal is a losing battle. Is what I was attempting to imply in the above post. Art
Gnote Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 Its a shame to see dogs ruined by poor handling and training, i have had to defend myself against dog attacks a couple times and i never blame the animal. Its a tough pill but if you are breaking the rules by leaving the dog off a leash in a leash area than you are in a pickle. Either walk the dog on a leash and do what is necessary to protect yourself and your animal. Or bite the bullet and go elsewhere away from the problem animal. Unfortunatly you cant fix stupid and it sounds like you are up against plenty of it. Good luck, i hope you avoid further confrontation.
sofabed Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 A vet once told me to use a squirt gun filled with water. This will stop the dog while not injuring him and prevent you from possibly being charged as well. Also report the incident every time it happens. The police may respond as well if you keep reporting the incident to them.
creditmaster Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 this is why i dont have a dog
Steve Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 creditmaster, if this is the reason you don't have a dog, that is rather unfortunate.
Walleye72 Posted September 23, 2014 Report Posted September 23, 2014 I have to agree that while "teaching the other dog a lesson" might feel like the right thing to do, and may have been appropriate at one point in time, in today's litigious society, it could be the good guy who ends up with vet bills. I think you have the right idea with animal control. You might inform her of your intention to report her (mentioning the information the AC officer requested) and see if that's not enough to change her behavior.
Roy Posted September 23, 2014 Report Posted September 23, 2014 If you absolutely must have the dog owner's address, read it from the dog tag. Don't you EVER follow the woman home. Just sayin'.
BillM Posted September 23, 2014 Report Posted September 23, 2014 Just get her licence plate.... No confrontation, no nothing.
AKRISONER Posted September 23, 2014 Author Report Posted September 23, 2014 UPDATE**** The lady actually came by my house this morning after I left for work and spoke to my roomate. She sincerely apologized and notified my roomate to inform me that she will no longer be bringing her dogs to the park and that she will be taking them to obedience school until she can be assured that an incident will not happen like this again. To clarify with everyone, the one dog that did clamp onto my dogs neck and not let go, which i ended up kicking in order to get it to release its grip was actually on a leash. During the process of the owner attempting to control her off leash dog this dog was able to get close enough to mine to bite it. I believe she was aware of the issue with this dog and therefore does not typically let it off leash. She has indicated that the other dog only recently began having issues. Hopefully she will understand that the issues stem from her lack of authority and leadership with the dogs and not from the dogs themselves. Time will tell!
BillM Posted September 23, 2014 Report Posted September 23, 2014 I'm guessing she apologized because she didn't want you to report her.
AKRISONER Posted September 23, 2014 Author Report Posted September 23, 2014 I'm guessing she apologized because she didn't want you to report her. Hence the Time will tell although my roomate who is not one for Bull...actually said the apology sounded sincere and that she was definitely upset.
BillM Posted September 23, 2014 Report Posted September 23, 2014 Well let's hope that's the case. A lesson learned!
bigbuck Posted September 23, 2014 Report Posted September 23, 2014 That sucks!! That she knocked on your door and told your roomate tbat she will deal with it responibly speaks well for her. That said, I feel bad for your dog that it got attacked while minding its own business. Years back while walking my last dog in a nearby park, a fellow had his german shepherd off leash and it came up to my dog and attacked it right away with no provocation or warning, not even a growl. BIG mistake, my dog was a Sharplaninac, Macedonian sheep dog, big and ornery. The shep did not stand a chance, my dog grabbed it by the throat and started to thrash it around. I got mine off and the shep walked off with its tail between its legs. The owner came running up and started to yell at me! His dog, off leash on public property, attacked mine and it was my fault??? Needless to say, he looked at me before I could say anything else and walked off. Every time I saw him and his dog again, they would go to the other side of the street. I am a dog lover, but if you do not have control over your animal, do not ever leave it off leash.
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