Stocking lake Simcoe with Landlock Salmon ?

[misfish]

With the new testing of bringing the musky back to Simcoe and not really hearing or reading anything saying they are making it,I was wondering if landlocks would be a better choice. The lake has enough bait fish and hearing imo to support them.

 

I think it would be a great addition to the lake. Both soft and hard water seasons. Seems they are very sustianable.

 

I was reading a bit on this and came across this interesting read..

 

http://www.maine.gov/ifw/fishing/species/identification/landlockedsalmon.htm

 

 

Your thoughts on this?

Edited August 12, 2013 by Misfish

[Christopheraaron]

I think it would be a pretty interesting experiment, doesn't seem like there are a lot of spawning area though.

Edited August 12, 2013 by Christopher k

[Rich]

This is the problem I believe. Most of Simcoe's creeks and tribs are hardly prime salmon run material. I believe the beaver would support a good run.

 

Also in retrospect, didn't the government scrap their chinook stocks and randomly switch to atlantics a few years back?

Edited August 12, 2013 by Rich

[glen]

 

Stock a two million rainbow a year.

 

Think about that.

[Rich]

2 million lake sturgeon a year.

 

Think about THAT!

 

[glen]

The landlocked salmon are too small to troll for average 1.5lb. Simcoe is a deep trolling lake and the lakers don't get me excited.

 

I wonder if Cabelas will help improve some of the fishing around here.

[glen]

You arnt aloud to fish for sturgeon in ont.

 

also there is enough bottom feeders.

Edited August 12, 2013 by glen

[Terry]

works for me

[misfish]

Rainbows would work for sure,as they are] in the lake already,just not in big numbers and the tribs on Simcoe could handle them. Theres an artical I read in the Canadian mag about improving the tribes for brook trout,which use to be a big thing back 40 years ago.

Edited August 12, 2013 by Misfish

[Christopheraaron]

Forget rainbows, what about big browns?

[misfish]

I wonder if Cabelas will help improve some of the fishing around here.

 

Lets hope Glen.

[glen]

Simcoe would be hot for walleye if they stocked them.

I change my mind stock a million rainbow and a million walleye every year.

 

I would give up the lakers and whitefish for bows and walleye.

[Rich]

You arnt aloud to fish for sturgeon in ont.

 

also there is enough bottom feeders.

That little laughy face at the bottom meant I was joking.

[John Bacon]

This is the problem I believe. Most of Simcoe's creeks and tribs are hardly prime salmon run material. I believe the beaver would support a good run.

 

Also in retrospect, didn't the government scrap their chinook stocks and randomly switch to atlantics a few years back?

 

No, Chinook stocking has remained steady at about ~540,000 fish per year in the Canadian side of Lake Ontario. Georgian bay is stocked as well. Metro East Anglers took over the rearing of Chinook for Lake Ontario for five years; but the MNR is raising them again. The Atlantic (which is what the 'land locked' salmon are) program has not have any effect on the Chinook stocking so far.

[Richie Razor]

How about stock chinooks and coho's in Simcoe??

You'd develop another fishing industry worth millions and be able to catch edible fish, unlike what comes out of Lake O.

 

Yeah, not a big laker fan either...., or how about more whites?

[davey buoy]

A buddy,Tounament fisher,Last Sunday had a 4'plus muskie figure 8 him for a minute or so and just turned down.He has had several over the last 5 years grab or circle his figure 8.There are some veterans still in there and they do come around every now and than."told me his secret lol"The last few years of stocking,I believe can't be bad.Any additional stocking won't hurt as well!! All for it!!

Edited August 12, 2013 by davey buoy

[glen]

As soon as they lift the ban on fishing them I will be the first one there.

[BillM]

Stock giant, triploid rock bass. Instant classic!

[OhioFisherman]

How is Simcoe's smelt population? From reading the article Landlocks seem to center on them for food?

[Musky or Specks]

Atlantics were never native to Simcoe. Same with Chinooks and Coho's. The Ministry is a about rehabilitating existing or former existing fisheries not about experimenting.Those days are long over. I think the last time the minstry introduced an exotic species to an Ontario body of water was the Conestoga River with brown trout. But someone can chime in if I'm wrong. As was mentioned Rainbows,Walleye, and Musky already exist in Simcoe so you have to ask why hasn't the fishery taken off. In all cases its because the habitat isn't suitable or degraded to the point where succesful spawning and recruitment is impossible.In these times of austerity spending money on stocking is not a reality Let's spend our dollars on protection and rehabing of the existing fisheries-Conservation officers and spawning habitat improvement.

[kickingfrog]

The rainbows would have been introduced as well.

[craigdritchie]

MuskyorSpecs is correct - MNR won't even think about stocking non-native species in Lake Simcoe. It's fun to fantasize about what could be, but no new species introductions will happen until there is a substantial shift in government policy. In other words, not in our lifetimes.

 

If we were to add any new species to Simcoe, my personal vote would be striped bass. I've fished for them in a lot of US lakes that are very similar to Simcoe (i.e. big, deep, cold, and great smallmouth fisheries). Stripers would be awesome - imagine 10 to 15 pound fish that are dumb as a bag of rocks, travel in large schools, and eat buzzbaits and Zara Spooks like crazy.

 

I guess I'll have to keep driving down to Tennessee and Kentucky to get my striper fix. Oh well. It sure beats ice fishing!

[Terry]

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If we were to add any new species to Simcoe, my personal vote would be striped bass. I've fished for them in a lot of US lakes that are very similar to Simcoe (i.e. big, deep, cold, and great smallmouth fisheries). Stripers would be awesome - imagine 10 to 15 pound fish that are dumb as a bag of rocks, travel in large schools, and eat buzzbaits and Zara Spooks like crazy.

 

so how many trips would we have to do bringing stripers up from the US in our livewells

 

 

yeah I know we can transfer fish in livewells

 

 

 

 

 

we need a tanker truck

 

 

lol

[Richie Razor]

^^^^^ GREAT IDEA!!!!!!

 

But it's probably too cold for them. Sigh.

[danc]

Atlantics were never native to Simcoe. Same with Chinooks and Coho's. The Ministry is a about rehabilitating existing or former existing fisheries not about experimenting.Those days are long over. I think the last time the minstry introduced an exotic species to an Ontario body of water was the Conestoga River with brown trout. But someone can chime in if I'm wrong. As was mentioned Rainbows,Walleye, and Musky already exist in Simcoe so you have to ask why hasn't the fishery taken off. In all cases its because the habitat isn't suitable or degraded to the point where succesful spawning and recruitment is impossible.In these times of austerity spending money on stocking is not a reality Let's spend our dollars on protection and rehabing of the existing fisheries-Conservation officers and spawning habitat improvement.

 

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