mbac31 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) I know this post will probally get pulled. Not bashing them just wondering? I was just wondering whats the deal with WFN. I paid for a fishing channel but lately it seems to be running out of ideas. Re runs, Movies etc. Most of the better shows are Canadain. I dont want to see endless re runs or 2007/2008 reruns of FLW. Infomercials are on there alot lately. Is it just me ? Edited June 23, 2009 by smalliefisher
Roy Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 I know this post will probally get pulled. Not bashing them just wondering? I was just wondering whats the deal with WFN. Seriously, why would you start a thread with the belief that it might get pulled? I would think that the best people to ask would be the folks at WFN.
bigugli Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Seriously, why would you start a thread with the belief that it might get pulled? I would think that the best people to ask would be the folks at WFN. I wouldn't rely on them for a straight answer.On the few times I have written to WFN I never got a straight answer. Why would they. The business is there to make money. To do that you have to air programs and advertising, A saturday filler makes sense. Anglers are busy fishing, and viewership is down at those times. That means cheap ad spaces. The network will, however, tell you that "this is part of [their(sic.)] effort to bring you, the viewer, the best in outdoor programming". That was the company line for keeping Charlie Moore on the air.
lookinforwalleye Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 If it wasn`t for the local boys,Mercer,DeRose,Izumi,and the Extreme Angler boys WFN would be a waste of time and money!
Jer Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 I have the PVR set to tape Dave's show every week and that's about the only time the channel gets tuned in. Sad really.
motv8tr Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 First of all, it's called WFN "World" Fishing Network, to me that implies fishing around the world??? If you don't like it, don't subscribe, or write the network and instead of complaining about the shows they have, maybe suggest something you'd like to see. It's possible there aren't that many fishing shows out there? Strangely there are likely people out there that like some of the programming you don't, go figure. Like any other TV network, watch what you like, don't watch what you don't like, it seems all very simple to me, but then I am a very simple person. Maureen
aniceguy Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 come on guys if it wasnt for wfn I wouldnt have gotten my load and cut, have a perfect lawn and have all those revolutionary Billy May products, rekindle my love for Sophia Loren and remember why I hate the darn ocean..... Seriously the Canadian and bass content is pretty good.....
Rich Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 There are a lot of shows on there I don't really watch.. guess that's why I don't subscribe - or complain.
JohnF Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Seems to me that trying to fill those hours with new and fascinating content is a pretty big chore, probably impossible. There just aren't enuf Daves, JPs et al around to fill the prime time hours for our amusement and edification. So the schedulers are playing around with different products to fill the void in hopes of finding a mix that satisfies everyone. It's a tough job. I'm only an occasional viewer but it seems to me they should take a page from some of the other sport-specific channels and do more in studio shows instead of on the water programming. I'd be all over a show with one of our home grown pro's doing demos or comparing gear, showing how to properly load mono on a spinning reel, tying the best knots, casting techniques, retrieval and presentation techniques, and so on. Shows about specific species and methods fishing - walleye, bass, panfish, pike, muskie, carp, deepwater lake fish, spring & fall trout and salmon, off-shore, fly, trolling, jigging, casting, whatever. I have no idea what the viewer demographic is. That may be the problem. The demographic is so varied that they have to be all over the map (literally) to offer something for everyone and subsequently they lose the interest of the specific markets like Ontario. It's a great idea with a load of difficulty attached. JF
Roy Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 That's very well put, John, and probably the closest thing to the truth.
johnnyb Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 While you're at it, call ABC, NBC, CBS, CBC, Global, CTV, to complain to them about all the re-runs, lame reality shows and general filler that they run through the summer.
Lunker777 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Im just tired of the paid programming. But I guess these channels... IE WFN, Military channel, Out door channel.... They get there funding from these so we have to put up with it. I watch a few shows and then change the channel. Facts of fishing, Getting Skooled, Real Fishing, Bass edge, Musky hunter, Scotty martin... theres a few others Ive started to watch but cant remembe the names. All in all.... The wife hates the channel, because its on quite a bit ! haha
Fisherpete Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Re-runs or not, that channel keeps me sane between fishing trips... I think I have watched Bob Mehsikomer catch the same muskie 14 times now and the next time it is on I will watch it again LOL!!!!
ciceri Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 If it wasn`t for the local boys,Mercer,DeRose,Izumi,and the Extreme Angler boys WFN would be a waste of time and money! And Fish N Canada, as well as Musky Hunter for me. Oh, i also like The Next Bite.
Bitsmith2k Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 I'm only an occasional viewer but it seems to me they should take a page from some of the other sport-specific channels and do more in studio shows instead of on the water programming. I'd be all over a show with one of our home grown pro's doing demos or comparing gear, showing how to properly load mono on a spinning reel, tying the best knots, casting techniques, retrieval and presentation techniques, and so on. Shows about specific species and methods fishing - walleye, bass, panfish, pike, muskie, carp, deepwater lake fish, spring & fall trout and salmon, off-shore, fly, trolling, jigging, casting, whatever. I have no idea what the viewer demographic is. That may be the problem. The demographic is so varied that they have to be all over the map (literally) to offer something for everyone and subsequently they lose the interest of the specific markets like Ontario. It's a great idea with a load of difficulty attached. JF john, that's a brilliant idea, i'd definately watch it..
JohnF Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 john, that's a brilliant idea, i'd definately watch it.. Mebbe we could sell Ryan on the idea, and he in turn would twist Dave's arm and so on .... JF
MCTFisher9120 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Ugh, re-runs of fishing shows...WFN, non stop fishing I wish! I want WFN... Happy bickering, MTBF
JPD Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Seems to me that trying to fill those hours with new and fascinating content is a pretty big chore, probably impossible. There just aren't enuf Daves, JPs et al around to fill the prime time hours for our amusement and edification. So the schedulers are playing around with different products to fill the void in hopes of finding a mix that satisfies everyone. It's a tough job. I'm only an occasional viewer but it seems to me they should take a page from some of the other sport-specific channels and do more in studio shows instead of on the water programming. I'd be all over a show with one of our home grown pro's doing demos or comparing gear, showing how to properly load mono on a spinning reel, tying the best knots, casting techniques, retrieval and presentation techniques, and so on. Shows about specific species and methods fishing - JF Great response John, you are right about filling the content... just think if there are a few bad shows on say OLN or Global when they only have to cover 3 hours of fishing two days per week, imagine the challenge of finding 24/7 worth of good content. There are a ton, literally a ton of fishing shows sent into the WFN to be aired but so many of them never see the light of day due to the quality or content... think what they must be like!!! As for your request for a show.. I think I got most of it covered for you guys this year... Electronic tips, Boat maintenance tips, Tackle tips, Technique instruction like last year, rod power and action, reel with gear ratios, proper line per application, new lures, rods, reels, line and gadgets plus some tips for people both well into their game and advice for people starting out their passion for the sport. Comparing gear can be a real problematic area, especially after you torch one in a review... that company may be a bit more than upset at you, the show and whoever carries it...lol As a side note, I don't watch any one channel 24/7, so why should WFN be held to such a high standard? Chanel surfing is something everyone does, that's why there are hundreds of channels out there. When there is something on that I like, like Mercer, FLW or Scott Martin etc... I tune in. Typically after that I have too much work to do so back at it I go... Some people love flyfishing, some saltwater and others only watch the bass shows.. different stroke for different folks I guess... but that's why there are so many different shows on the network.. not everyone fishes the same way for the same thing! JP
Terry Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) the Canadian shows are what keeps it going, but not FNC they suck and I have not watched it from the day they did the all dressed in black lets pretend we are 13 years old show.....lost all respect for it and wouldn't watch fishn canada if it was the last fishing show on earth I would rather hang with David Carradine then watch fishing Canada LMAO...sometimes I kill myself Edited June 23, 2009 by Terry
SlowPoke Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 You beat me to it JP. What John was suggesting pretty much describes your show. WFN's re-roll gets tedious and there are some shows out there that just kill me. When they do, I watch something else.
mistyriver1 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Like others have said, they can't be held to such a high standard regarding reruns and such. I just wish I could figure out when the shows are on that I like to watch the most...they are always changing the day and time. JP, Keep up the good work. Look forward to your new shows. Jim
BillM Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Pft, I'm submitting the video I posted in Solo's thread. Can WFN sensor out swear words?
JohnF Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Great response John, you are right about filling the content... just think if there are a few bad shows on say OLN or Global when they only have to cover 3 hours of fishing two days per week, imagine the challenge of finding 24/7 worth of good content. There are a ton, literally a ton of fishing shows sent into the WFN to be aired but so many of them never see the light of day due to the quality or content... think what they must be like!!! As for your request for a show.. I think I got most of it covered for you guys this year... Electronic tips, Boat maintenance tips, Tackle tips, Technique instruction like last year, rod power and action, reel with gear ratios, proper line per application, new lures, rods, reels, line and gadgets plus some tips for people both well into their game and advice for people starting out their passion for the sport. Comparing gear can be a real problematic area, especially after you torch one in a review... that company may be a bit more than upset at you, the show and whoever carries it...lol As a side note, I don't watch any one channel 24/7, so why should WFN be held to such a high standard? Chanel surfing is something everyone does, that's why there are hundreds of channels out there. When there is something on that I like, like Mercer, FLW or Scott Martin etc... I tune in. Typically after that I have too much work to do so back at it I go... Some people love flyfishing, some saltwater and others only watch the bass shows.. different stroke for different folks I guess... but that's why there are so many different shows on the network.. not everyone fishes the same way for the same thing! JP My local fishing store guy, Byron, gave you rave reviews, so I'll be watching for your show. To be honest I haven't subscribed to WFN before and just see it when the free stuff is one, but I'm tempted to get it. Truth is I found that during the last Starchoice freeby period in May the shows were better than the last time. Unfortunately your show didn't come on when I was watching. I'll try harder next time. Byron's bigger and younger than me and anybody who does wheelies in 5th gear on a rice rocket is insane, so he has my attention. JF
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