davew3 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Folks, I hope I am not reading this right but it looks like Minister John Baird wants to make boat licenses to be renewable like a car license. His excuse is - "They also introduce renewable pleasure craft licences in order to improve the accuracy of licence information for search and rescue purposes. "The goal of these regulations is to reduce fatalities, injuries, and property damage resulting from small vessel accidents and incidents in Canada," said Minister Baird Now I don't know how to start a pettiton online but I hope some one else can pick up on this. I think this is another cash grab personally. Please see the link. http://www.tc.gc.ca/mediaroom/releases/nat/2009/09-h061e.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbouck Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I don't mind it. As long as they have a system to check if it is still valid or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerritt Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 yup... we are slowly being legislated to death! G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbuck Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Oh great, just as I'm ready to buy a boat, they want to have us get a new licence every year, certify our trailers yearly, me thinks me missed the boat on the good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLLIWOGG Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 There are a lot of boats that were licensed before the age of computers and the paperwork is in some basement somewhere where nobody will ever look it up, so the idea is to get them on a search able file. Can't be much of a cash grab if there is still no cost to license your boat, its still free isn't it? If they intend to charge a fee we have 30 days to license the boat. I don't see how it would help with much of their goals as the license gives very little information unless they are going to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappieperchhunter Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) ALL TAXES/RENEWALS..ETC... are a cash grab. However I hold the opinion that taxes are necessary to maintain the lifestyle we have all become accustomed to. The money they get from this isn't used to fund some private club only government employees get to use... it comes back to us in one form or another. And to a large degree I like the way things are done here in Canada. Sure the government throws money at lots of things I don't understand or may never use....and that will never change. But lots of it also goes to stuff I use everyday and appreciate having. Right from the start I knew that the boaters license was going to be a renewable thing eventually. Who could have not seen that one coming? To me it's a small price to pay to get out in my boat and enjoy time on the water. Would it be nicer if it remained the way it is...yes it would. Hell it would have been even nicer if it went back to just being free with no card at all. But I'll happily pay the small token charge every year to keep my card. It's only a big deal if you make it a big deal. I say go out and enjoy your boat and don't sweat the small stuff. Edited April 30, 2009 by crappieperchhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 yeah, more money out of my pocket... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricoboxing Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 GRADUATED BOATERS LICENSE IS NEXT B1 - may operate a boat only on lakes less than 1000 acres, and must be supervised by a B boater license test fee - $150, retest- $100 B2 - may operate a boat on lakes, but less then 10,000 acres, and only from 9-5pm license test fee - $150, retest- $100 B - may operate boat on any lake, but cannot use cell phone while the boat is in motion license test fee - $50, retest- $75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerritt Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 GRADUATED BOATERS LICENSE IS NEXT B1 - may operate a boat only on lakes less than 1000 acres, and must be supervised by a B boater license test fee - $150, retest- $100 B2 - may operate a boat on lakes, but less then 10,000 acres, and only from 9-5pm license test fee - $150, retest- $100 B - may operate boat on any lake, but cannot use cell phone while the boat is in motion license test fee - $50, retest- $75 HAHAHAHAHAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooner_jr Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Pleasure craft There will be no increase in the cost of licensing for pleasure craft owners as a result of the requirement to re-license the vessel every 10 years. This program is currently free of charge to the user and will continue to be so. The cost to pleasure craft owners will be minimal and will be limited to a very small number of vessels less than 6 m in length, but with a freeboard greater than 0.5 m, that will be required to obtain a re-boarding device under the proposed Regulations. Consequently, these costs have not been evaluated. If you want to read through it, check the link. http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2009/2...l/reg1-eng.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITEME Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Ive got no problem with it ...bring it on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSTER Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 just like gun registry ...cost,cost ,cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12footspringbok Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Just another typical cash grab. More taxes and fees means more regulation and enforcement = more taxes and fees, bigger goverment which leads to ...... not even going to say it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Its no big deal. The money they save when they cancel the gun registry can be used to pay for this. Our government knows what best for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuNnYoOzE Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 seriously there are tons of people on the water Id rather feel safe and know they have soem kind og water safety knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dara Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 seriously there are tons of people on the water Id rather feel safe and know they have soem kind og water safety knowledge Yeah, and when you want to report an idiot, you need to be able to get a number off the boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLLIWOGG Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Right, its the # on the boat not your boat operators card. There is no such thing as a boat operators license in Ca. I can issue you a card that says you know how to operate a boat to the dismal standards of trans. Ca. but I cannot issue a waver from prosecution (a license). A lot of operators card providers make the mistake of calling it a license. WE already pay people to man the offices of service Ca. so there should be no cost at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 WOW, I am very surprised how many here on in favor of this Bull. In NYS I just paid $46 to register my boat (3 year renewal). It was $18 then DOUBLED and a $10 surcharge was also added = $46. You know what I get now that it more than DOUBLED.........you guessed it NOTHING just like when it was only $18. I read years ago that our government spends $1.31 for every dollar they collect.... just more WASTE of my hard earned dollars..... DON'T let this happen. And for those of you that need your GOVERNMENT to take care of you, you must still be wet behind the ears..... all your fellow Canadians are taking care of you.....Why can't you take care of yourself ? ? ? I have a feeling this thread will not last long.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeXXington Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 don't worry, given a few more years you will end up paying for your boater card renewal.. cash grab enless it went into enforcement.. but you know that won't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuNnYoOzE Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 as crazy as this sounds ...the government runs programs and relief efforts and welfare and disability benefits and helps millions with subsidies on rent and such so belly aching about paying for services is as crazy as going into a casino and complaining you dropped 200$ in an hour and screw the people serving the drinks! NO seriously regulation on boating is a long time coming I support it TOO many idiots out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_614 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I have a huge issue with the current card. Anyone can memorize the book, but can they actually operate a boat? I work at a boat ramp on the south shore of Lake Ontario. Some of the new people I talk with say they got their card, but have never been in a boat. If the boaters card is done with a "road" test, I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuNnYoOzE Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) I have a huge issue with the current card. Anyone can memorize the book, but can they actually operate a boat? I work at a boat ramp on the south shore of Lake Ontario. Some of the new people I talk with say they got their card, but have never been in a boat. If the boaters card is done with a "road" test, I'm all for it. some company(at the Toronto Sportsmen show) supplying licenses were charging 60$ a piece and guaranteeing (no one) fails it....now why didn't they just sell them illegally on the streets! Edited April 30, 2009 by FishinLunatic69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraxus Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 What sucks is that the Government keeps proposing these lame ideas which tax the Canadian Citizens TILL death. I would really like to see something for my money. I can't even get a garbage man to pick up a few freaking card board boxes unless they are flattened and bundled with twine, I can't get through to an actual person at any government office without doing the automated operator dance, I can't walk my dog without a leash and license, etc...etc! It starts with implementation and it just keeps getting worse! The renewals will go up in price and we will pay more and more and more and where does the money go? More Conservation Officers...Nope...More fish restocking programs...Nope...more services period...Nope! But guess what? We may very well be co-owners of Chrysler! What a freaking joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBCregal Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 as crazy as this sounds ...the government runs programs and relief efforts and welfare and disability benefits and helps millions with subsidies on rent and such so belly aching about paying for services is as crazy as going into a casino and complaining you dropped 200$ in an hour and screw the people serving the drinks! I see several problems with your outlook. First and forth most is there is a huge difference in the government taking your money and losing it at a casino. You don't have a choice once the government starts taxing/fees on something. You don't have to go to the casino but you do have to pay the tax man. TAXES never go DOWN.........only up.....WHY.......I guess there programs aren't working, are they.... Giving away money to welfare/disability recipients that never payed into the program is wrong with a few exceptions. However, it's the norm not the exception that is running you into the most tax country in the world. Your country and mine have GENERATIONS of these FREE LOADERS living off of government programs and that is also very wrong. I only want to keep what is mine. I will take care of my family and just want to be left alone by the government. Stop telling me I have to pay even more for someone else to live... I didn't have 8 kids because I knew I couldn't afford 8 kids. Instead I had 2 and housed them, feed them, clothes them and sent them to college WITHOUT any government help..... If I can do so can you... Stop looking for a free money give away. What if we ALL just stopped being productive and waited for the mailman to bring the check. What then ? ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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