Thanks for the info/links...I looked into all of them. Turns out there isn't much out that way right on a beach. We did find a private place near Belle River, but same thing, not directly on a beach (there are 8 little kids involved here, wives aren't thrilled about popping them in the car, packing everything up etc). Sounds like St Clair is a good spot for me and the buddy, but not as good for the wives/kids.