Fisherman Posted April 15, 2023 Report Share Posted April 15, 2023 And if you can't remember how it all came apart, take pictures and lay items out left to right so they go back together in backwards order. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siwash Posted April 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) Has anyone else noticed this - a member here PM me and circled this spot. I also noted in when I inspected the area and thought it could be trouble.. could this be my problem if it's not the seals? Edited April 16, 2023 by siwash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITEME Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 9 hours ago, siwash said: Has anyone else noticed this - a member here PM me and circled this spot. I also noted in when I inspected the area and thought it could be trouble.. could this be my problem if it's not the seals? I did notice that I though it was just crappy weld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 That might be your cracked lower end from freezing…😕 hopefully not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 That would be a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickOnt Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 If the lower end is cracked from freezing, would oil not seep through crack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 If there's no pressure, maybe not. Might be a really good idea to do a pressure test on it to lay that idea to rest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 Correct me if I am wrong, isn't that section of the lower unit cast as 1 piece? no welds? looks cracked to me? i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 Could hopefully just be some mould flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Willis Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 I believe you are absolutely right Ohiofisherman. It is one piece and to me that is obviously a crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siwash Posted April 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 So if that's a crack, she's kaput?! You know that doesn't look like it just happened to me. I bought it in august of 2022. Worked well the couple of times I went out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Willis Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 It does appear to be a crack, and if so yes it is kaput, at least that part of it is. Sometimes they will run and seem fine for a while. But after time all that water in there is going to take its toll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 I would fill it out and take it out for a spin then check if there is more water in the oil there is also no pressure in that area so it is possible to jb Wield it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siwash Posted April 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 I was thinking of adding JB WELD... used it to seal an old tin boat years ago and was very effective. Can't hurt to try, eh? So maybe some hope of salvaging it? Some honest opinions - if the motor is unsalvageable what is it worth (parts wise)? I may have to sell it and want to be honest with a potential buyer (unlike the the last guy who sold it to me..) Caveat emptor... bloody Romans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siwash Posted April 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 9 hours ago, Fisherman said: If there's no pressure, maybe not. Might be a really good idea to do a pressure test on it to lay that idea to rest. So I've performed PSI tests on my motors in the past.. pretty easy.. IS this the same kind of test or are we talking about a completely different kind of test? Thanks guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 I don't know how much psi is needed otherwise you might blow out the remaining seal that's still ok. Just a guess but no more than 10 psi, like Terry mentioned there's no real pressure buildup on the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strik Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just saying the guy who sold it to u might have not know, we can assume all we want. Either way always sucks when you purchase something used and find issues. Best of luck with the fix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 hours ago, siwash said: I was thinking of adding JB WELD... used it to seal an old tin boat years ago and was very effective. Can't hurt to try, eh? So maybe some hope of salvaging it? Some honest opinions - if the motor is unsalvageable what is it worth (parts wise)? I may have to sell it and want to be honest with a potential buyer (unlike the the last guy who sold it to me..) Caveat emptor... bloody Romans! I JB welded a crack in the oil pan on the bottom of our 1992 kawasaki bayou 220 10 years ago. The kids are still tearing that old bike up today. If that is a split, I'd JB it, sand it as smooth as you can and hit it with some paint. My bet is it'll work just fine! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siwash Posted April 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 hours ago, porkpie said: I JB welded a crack in the oil pan on the bottom of our 1992 kawasaki bayou 220 10 years ago. The kids are still tearing that old bike up today. If that is a split, I'd JB it, sand it as smooth as you can and hit it with some paint. My bet is it'll work just fine! I hope you're right...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siwash Posted April 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 9 hours ago, strik said: Just saying the guy who sold it to u might have not know, we can assume all we want. Either way always sucks when you purchase something used and find issues. Best of luck with the fix Agreed... but I finding hard to imagine that this water issue just appeared for me this winter. And nor the crack. He said he had it for some time.. anyhow too late - buyer beware.. my fault. And when you buy old, used stuff, you can't expect not to have some issues. If I could afford new or newer, I wouldn't be buying an old motor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITEME Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 Do beat yourself up poop happens and this didn’t happen this winter this is a previous owner thing not your fault at all live and learn if you go the jb route after doing seals scarf up the area good where you are laying it down wipe it with acetone let it dry and go to it you’ll be fine!! peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siwash Posted April 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 Speaking of those seals, just received email from parts supplier (marine dealer up near Mactier) and they have them. I think I'll order a water pump/impeller kit too and change that sooner than later. should I change out anything else while I'm at it? I might as well put the parts on that order. thanks all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 I would put jb wield on it and fill up the oil and test it first if the small crack is what let the water in and jb wield works you are good to go and there will be no more water id the crack can’t be fixed don’t throw away money on a piece of crap 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITEME Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 Have you ever had this motor running?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siwash Posted April 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) Yes I have. 4 times last year. see my next message. Tried to edit here. Edited April 17, 2023 by siwash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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