Fines for fishing off of Oshawa pier

[John Bacon]

Oshawa pier is closed for the winter.  Some fishermen have been fined

https://www.durhamregion.com/news-story/8120329-oshawa-fishermen-livid-after-hefty-fines-issued-by-city-for-fishing-off-lakeview-park-pier/#.Wnpxok4YQsZ.facebook
 

[Terry]

So

 

is it accessing the pier that is illegal or is it fishing 

[Garnet]

So anybody that walks a dog in public park should be fined in accordance with there might be ice and they might fall.

[Jmeyer]

I don't know how a municipal bi law can be enforced on Fed territory agreement or not. I would fight it too, sounds like a money grab designed to keep the cost of having bi law officers revenue neutral. It all boils down to my least favourite word "liability", I miss the days when a use at own risk sign was good enough. 

[LeXXington]

Easier to block access than pay for someone who fell in.    Municipalities just listening to the lawyers.

Sad this will be the future in a bubble wrap world.

[ch312]

They knew the pier is closed and they chose to ignore the signs. You can't whine about receiving tickets when you choose to believe you're above the law.

Walker and Whiffen were also ticketed the same day. Both say they regularly fish off the pier in the winter months and are aware it’s posted as closed.

“We’ve literally been fishing on this pier for decades and nothing’s ever been said to us before about us being there,” said Walker.

 

Many cities close off certain areas during the winter as it's not practical or cost effective to conduct winter maintenance in areas that receive little to no use during winter months. With something like a pier, the city would have to send crews nearly every day during the winter to spread salt. We cannot expect a city to spend thousands every winter to keep a couple fishermen happy. 

[BillM]

Ignore the signs,  pay the price.  How long they've been fishing there makes no difference.  

[Garnet]

Nobody wants or expects salt or work crews.

This is the cancer from Port Hope, Cobourg and Bridgenorth.

The guys fishing there should get to a town council. Oshawa has a 4 ft railing .

There's dozens of places just as dangerous people use every day.  

 

 

[Snidley]

Oshawa pier could be dangerous if ice covered. The water there is at least 20-30' deep with huge rollers and it's a long way down from the pier to the water level, with few ladders. This year it is also under construction but in truth it is no worse than Bronte pier or 16 Mile pier most times. Those stupid handrails make getting to the side a pain . The old marina has always been a trespass as are the marshaling yards just north of the pier itself. For those that don't know it is also verboten to fish off 16 Mile Pier after dark even in the summer months. No lights is the reasoning. Bronte pier(s) are both legal anytime but comon sense is required especially if the water gets as high as it did this spring/summer.

[Garnet]

The parking lot at 10 hockey arena's could be icy lets close them. 

[BillM]

40 minutes ago, Garnet said:

The parking lot at 10 hockey arena's could be icy lets close them. 

You going to drown in a hockey arena parking lot?   

[misfish]

 

 

 Im told I should get a real boat, not a float boat, cause I might end up drowning. OK

 

 

 

[Garnet]

You could slip on ice and drown in a puddle. And the liability is the same.

 

Edited February 8, 2018 by Garnet

[BillM]

4 hours ago, Garnet said:

You could slip on ice and drown in a puddle. And the liability is the me.

 

Imagine the headlines? lol

[FloatnFly]

On 2018-02-07 at 3:23 PM, Snidley said:

Oshawa pier could be dangerous if ice covered. The water there is at least 20-30' deep with huge rollers and it's a long way down from the pier to the water level, with few ladders. This year it is also under construction but in truth it is no worse than Bronte pier or 16 Mile pier most times. Those stupid handrails make getting to the side a pain . The old marina has always been a trespass as are the marshaling yards just north of the pier itself. For those that don't know it is also verboten to fish off 16 Mile Pier after dark even in the summer months. No lights is the reasoning. Bronte pier(s) are both legal anytime but comon sense is required especially if the water gets as high as it did this spring/summer.

Have you not seen the guys that fish the port hope lighthouse??? You want to talk dangerous, look there first

 

this was a nuisance fine, not a trespassing fine

[FloatnFly]

Oshawa pier is cake walk compared port hope

 

[BillM]

Bowmanville is no better, lol.   

[dave524]

better than Port Dalhousie, been closed since 2015 year round, not just winter     http://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/2015/04/16/port-dalhousie-piers-closed

[Fish Farmer]

On 2/7/2018 at 9:37 AM, LeXXington said:

Easier to block access than pay for someone who fell in.    Municipalities just listening to the lawyers.

Sad this will be the future in a bubble wrap world.

That says all, hit the nail on the head.

Guy walks out into traffic talking on his cel and gets killed and the Drivers at fault.

World is in trouble.

Edited February 9, 2018 by aplumma
faux cussing

[lew]

40 odd years ago a bunch of us were smelt fishing off the Whitby pier and my Dad tripped over a bollard and fell into the drink. Everyone rushed to help get him out and fortunately he was OK. He got dry clothes from the car, went back out and thanked everybody who helped him then went back to fishing.

No lawsuits, no blame and he just put it down as an unfortunate accident with a happy ending just the way it should be.

No idea if fishing from that pier today is legal or not.

 

Edited February 9, 2018 by lew

[Fish Farmer]

25 minutes ago, lew said:

40 odd years ago a bunch of us were smelt fishing off the Whitby pier and my Dad tripped over a bollard and fell into the drink. Everyone rushed to help get him out and fortunately he was OK. He got dry clothes from the car, went back out and thanked everybody who helped him then went back to fishing.

No lawsuits, no blame and he just put it down as an unfortunate accident with a happy ending just the way it should be.

No idea if fishing from that pier today is legal or not.

 

If we could only go backwards, the world would be so much better.

People were normal smarter then Lew, people didn't blame others for their misfortunes. 

Edited February 9, 2018 by Fish Farmer

[dave524]

27 minutes ago, lew said:

40 odd years ago a bunch of us were smelt fishing off the Whitby pier and my Dad tripped over a bollard and fell into the drink. Everyone rushed to help get him out and fortunately he was OK. He got dry clothes from the car, went back out and thanked everybody who helped him then went back to fishing.

No lawsuits, no blame and he just put it down as an unfortunate accident with a happy ending just the way it should be.

No idea if fishing from that pier today is legal or not.

 

This thread's topic is a bit misleading,  the fact that they were fishing is totally irrelevant  to the charge, they could have just as easily been bird watchers looking at waterfowl and the charges would have still been laid.

[Fish Farmer]

 

 Peoplekind    "    Joke LOL, is that his final answer ? I truly believe he was being serious and because of the way it played out in the media his spin doctors have come up with " Joke " as damage control . Perhaps, now even the most diehard Liberals will face up to the fact that the emperor has no clothes regardless of how much of the koolaid they have drunk.  

 

Fuddle Duddle comes to mind   

Edited February 9, 2018 by Fish Farmer

[misfish]

Like fishing the skimmer at the 4 sisters in the 80,s. Man, there were some big fish in there.

 

And before that, there was a wooden pier. Guys flocked to it for smelt fishing. No one fell in, but man were they enjoying the drinks. That was the  mid 70,s. Good ole days.

[BillM]

Speaking of smelts, I need some for the spring!  Doesn't Simcoe get good runs?