aplumma Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Then maybe they should go after all the hotrod cars and motorcycles that spew pollution like crazy. Ever have to drive behind 8-10 bikes on the highway while on their excursions. Eye watering, throat scratching gag. Lets not forget the fisherman and there 2 stroke motors . Until it is illegal to have hi performance motorcycles and cars those of use who want to burn fuel in a polluting manner can. With this view though you are looking at the tearing off the leaves of a tree instead of digging up the roots. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Insert bad joke about losing marbles here ------------------------------------: I lost my marbles a lonnnng time ago. he he art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Lets not forget the fisherman and there 2 stroke motors . Until it is illegal to have hi performance motorcycles and cars those of use who want to burn fuel in a polluting manner can. With this view though you are looking at the tearing off the leaves of a tree instead of digging up the roots. Art No Art, I wasn't including the 2 strokes, they're inherently dirty anyway. How many more leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Is it bad I'd make my kids sort out the marbles? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Red ones first, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuro2 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) If you have a bucket of marbles and 40 % of them are blue 20%green and 30 % red and the final !0 % are yellow. The quickest path to separating them is to remove the blue then red, green, and be left with the yellow. However when you are trying to just reduce the amount of marbles you will pick out the easiest ones to recognise which statistically are the red ones. We often apply this "logic" to life where we look for the solution that is the easiest path so we aim for the red marbles or the public masses who are least able to effectively mount a legal challenge. The logical solution is to go after the worst offenders and work your way back to the lesser offenders. This gives you the greatest bang for your efforts expended. Art ( A beauty pie chart that illustrates where the original figures come from with three more pie charts ) The analogy about the marbles...it doesn't really work because choosing any single marble doesn't have a hope of being the "silver bullet" that solves the problem. There is no justification in picking only one solution. Electric cars and trucks doesn't solve global warming. You gotta deal with all of the marbles and each marble will likely require a different solution. Now you can say then why are we dealing with the red marble because it doesn't solve anything and it costs those who don't have a lot of extra money? The answer is the answer my drunk friend once got from a bouncer in the bar where they wanted him to leave, "you can choose to do this now or the choice will be made for you with bruises". Edited October 3, 2017 by scuro2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 You don't solve global warming or cooling for that matter, you need to adapt just like the dinosaurs, OOPS , bad example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 You don't solve global warming or cooling for that matter, you need to adapt just like the dinosaurs, OOPS , bad example. Ya see, if those old dirty dinosaurs only went green the earth wouldn't have gone through another global warming and they would be still hear to hunt with our bows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) If you have a bucket of marbles and 40 % of them are blue 20%green and 30 % red and the final !0 % are yellow. The quickest path to separating them is to remove the blue then red, green, and be left with the yellow. However when you are trying to just reduce the amount of marbles you will pick out the easiest ones to recognise which statistically are the red ones. We often apply this "logic" to life where we look for the solution that is the easiest path so we aim for the red marbles or the public masses who are least able to effectively mount a legal challenge. The logical solution is to go after the worst offenders and work your way back to the lesser offenders. This gives you the greatest bang for your efforts expended. Art Art, just as I thought, you are an Alien. Edited October 10, 2017 by Old Ironmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Art, just as I thought, you are an Alien. Only when he comes North!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Ya see, if those old dirty dinosaurs only went green the earth wouldn't have gone through another global warming and they would be still hear to hunt with our bows. I thought global cooling and a ice age killed off the dinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 I thought global cooling and a ice age killed off the dinos. Who the hell left the fridge door open again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 . It can also travel 300 km (186 mi) on one charge. Needs better batteries that are not available yet. Maybe in ten years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted October 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Something I've not read about is how long does it take to charge a vehicle from "empty"? That seems to be a bigger concern to me vs distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Say you run out of juice 20 miles off the beaten path in your electric SUV, how do get it back to the grid, it's not like you can get a 20 litre jerry can of electricity ? Edited October 10, 2017 by dave524 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Busy hi way traffic jam in bad weather. Ooops just ran out of battery power. Do you want a charge or a tow. That may take a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Say you run out of juice 20 miles off the beaten path in your electric SUV, how do get it back to the grid, it's not like you can get a 20 litre jerry can of electricity ?put it in "airplane mode) to conserve battery life? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 A little generator and 10 hours will get him going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted October 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Say you run out of juice 20 miles off the beaten path in your electric SUV, how do get it back to the grid, it's not like you can get a 20 litre jerry can of electricity ? Easy, you run a cable up to the local clock tower and wait for the lightning strike. These cars do have flux capacitors right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 -25 pulling a double enclosed snowmobile trailer several hundred km's ya right....it would be pretty much useless....especially in hilly terrain.....oh ya and if you need 4x4 for long periods of time.....electric crap works in the fairy tale life in the heart of the city and no practical use in the real world outside of the center of the universe known as big cities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 I thought global cooling and a ice age killed off the dinos. I guess I should of been more politically correct and said "climate change"........LOL......more nonsense then a man should be allowed to read.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 -25 pulling a double enclosed snowmobile trailer several hundred km's ya right....it would be pretty much useless....especially in hilly terrain.....oh ya and if you need 4x4 for long periods of time.....electric crap works in the fairy tale life in the heart of the city and no practical use in the real world outside of the center of the universe known as big cities Not to mention if you got stuck ANYWHERE you had to wait for help and need heat to stay alive for several days. However, I am glad when the nutcases embrace this technology to lower the demand on gasoline so the supply just keeps getting larger for the rest of us to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuro2 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) I thought global cooling and a ice age killed off the dinos. I guess I should of been more politically correct and said "climate change"........LOL......more nonsense then a man should be allowed to read.... Mocking science are we? Here is a short little video on the earth's mass extinction events. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yINoJNA1SGs The video talks about how life dies within water bodies when oxygenation can't occur. That is something that all good fishermen understand. Most mass extinction events were caused by warming except that last "meteor" one where the dust kicked up by the impact caused global cooling. That would be two different types of extinctions based on opposite temperature extremes. If further explanation is needed just ask. Edited October 14, 2017 by scuro2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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