John Bacon Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 The city is planning to dump raw sewage in the river. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/montreal-dump-8-billion-litres-204232965.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavertail Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Wow, that blows my mind. I work in Waste Water Treatment and the volume they are talking about is insane. Dilution is the solution to pollution, or so I've heard! Still feel sorry for any downstream users, that's nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankTheRabbit Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 There was already enough junk when I fished the St. Lawrence. I was wet wading for smallies in the summer and would see tampon applicators, condoms, various bits of floating garbage floating along...never again. But somehow, smallies exist there by the thousands. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavertail Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I'll never understand why most people flush that junk down their toilets....out of sight out of mind I guess. Why not just toss it in the garbage in the first place? All that crap - female hygiene products, condoms, baby wipes, and even dental floss(one of the worst) has to be taken out of the process anyway and shipped off to landfill, it just creates huge problems with equipment failure and extra maintenance. And when it ends up back in the river, even worse. People are lazy slobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Baby wipes and tampons are grarly bad for the systems It baffles my mind that people flush things like that. When i worked maintenance in RRFN that also included sewers etc as well as water plant duties. I dont know how many friggen problems we had in just two years with wipes and tampons And i really dislike working in feces??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 BAN WOMEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 How about those disposable wet towels ? I watched a segment on them. They do not break down like they say they do. This one treatment plant had loads of them. As for the dumping ? How is this legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Are you sure Bill? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 BAN WOMEN! Says the mommas boy??? Brian, i think those towels dispose in like 7 years if i remember correctly??? They are just as bad as baby wipes We had one building I constantly got called to because of backups. I finally snapped, went door to door and literally had to yell at the tenants to quit using these items. That was after i had posted signs, signs even in their washrooms. Unreal, your bathroom has a garbage in it, use the fricken thing Oh and some genious decided to flush all his needles down the toilet! Well two actually, one a drug user one a diabetic. Then i had to go install those safety disposal needle containers in each apartment Unreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 And brian, im not sure how its legal at all, but it happens here too, twice a year. And rainy river is a "protected river" Makes zero sense to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavertail Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 As for the dumping ? How is this legal? When push comes to shove, the environment always take a back seat. Sounds like they got provincial approval anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outllaw Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 I live downstream from sarnia petro-chemical valley. we had the famous blob in the 1980,s. lotsa hoopla but its still there on the bottom st clair river.. water in time will become more valuable then gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 UPDATE: Montreal mayor Denis Coderre has ordered a halt to the plan of pumping raw sewage directly into the St. Lawrence River for a week. The decision was announced at this morning's executive committee meeting "It's a question of being thorough, with the mayor asking for a halt to the work," said Pierre Desrochers, chairman of the city's executive committee, who made the announcement on behalf of Coderre who is in New York on business. Coderre wants a moratorium on the plan to dump eight billion litres of untreated water in the river, due to maintenance on a pipe that collects both waste water and melted snow. The maintenance is linked to work on the Bonaventure expressway. "There is a need for snow disposal sites but there is also a need to make sure this was the best plan, if there are other options, and see if everything was taken into consideration and well thought out," said Desrochers. The work was set to begin October 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeytier Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 The water in the St. Lawerence at that point has already had plenty of time to pick up all sorts of lovely things from Superior all the way down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thanks for the update Roy. Good news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 For over 100 yrs Montreal has been dumping sewage straight into the river it's only been 20yrs that they have not done it purposely so the news said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Here is an update. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/environment-canada-suspends-montreals-plan-dump-raw-sewage-185719151.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpierre Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Not sure it's that big a deal. Lots of gray water in there. 8 billion litres. The flow rate of the St Lawrance is crazy high. Likely more than that in a matter of minutes. And it will be added gradually. Not sure I'd stick my straw in the river during the dump downstream but 10 miles away will be hard pressed to measure the extra contamination. Doesn't make for good PR though. It's all in the dilution. Victoria BC still dumps it ALL raw into the ocean All the time. Ottawa does it often too. Gotta tell those smallies to stop crapping in the river too. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpierre Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Just checked 1 billion litres per minute flow rate on the St Lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkrp Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 I' m going crappy fishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 If everyone flushes twice, it would be diluted to 50% I actually ran waste water treatment for a steel processing plant for 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted November 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) The dump will start tomorrow: http://www.brandonsun.com/national/breaking-news/montreal-will-begin-sewage-dump-wednesday-coderre-344731372.html Edited November 10, 2015 by JohnBacon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxie Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 Worked sewer and water main for years and the odd dump and/or spill should be no big deal but with corruption and various governments kicking the most of important cans down the road this is the inevitable outcome. The majority of cities and towns will run main trunk lines in valleys and ravines and in case of catastrophic failures gravity will take it out to sea so to speak. With Toronto's condo boom still keeping pace along with the crumbling oval combination brick lined sewer lining the underground I'm surprised dumps/spills don't happen with more frequency. Maybe the best is yet to come. Never been a fan of caviar anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Fever Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 What I can't get over is nothing from the US border states....I haven't seen anything from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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