mike rousseau Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Hello Had to get towed in today... So... I was driving WOT smooth as can be then it seamed like my motor slowed down ever so slightly... Like 2-3 mph difference... Shortly after I began to hear a knocking/clacking sound and an alarm went off... I shut it down and called for a tow to avoid further damage... The knocking/clacking sound seams to follow the RPMS as far as frequency goes... The noise occurs in all 3 gears I ran it on the muffs and removed 1 spark plug at a time and the noise remained constant... I can't tell where it's coming from because it's resignating through the entire motor.... With the hood on it sounds like the lower end... With the hood off its louder so then it sounds like the engine... A little reasearch says it could be a piston rod... Pop shaft bearing... As well as others... My warranty expired yesterday.... Any input or expert advise would be very much appreciated.... 2012 f50t Yamaha tiller 50hp 4 stroke Thanks Mike Edited August 27, 2015 by Mike Rousseau
DRIFTER_016 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 Get it into your dealer ASAP and they will probably fix it under warranty since it only just expired!!!
mike rousseau Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Posted August 13, 2015 Already called... My dealer is a few hours away in NY State tho... Want to make sure it's not minor before towing across the boarder Video is coming
mike rousseau Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Posted August 13, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/mike.rousseau.148/videos/10153568382081057/ Having problems posting the video... It's on my Facebook page tho I'll put it through YouTube tonight
DanD Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 Wouldn't a Canadian dealer honor the warranty? I know in automotive a new car's warranty is honored cross board. International companies, GM for example will honor their vehicles anywhere in the world that that model is sold. Dan.
porkpie Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 Get to dealer ASAP. If warranty just expired yesterday, you'd be foolish not to. Knocking and clanging are never good, and in this instance wether it's major or minor, the sooner you can get in the dealers door the better just in case It's a major failure. You've got a better than average chance of coverage if the warranty just expired and you take steps immediately.
DRIFTER_016 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 Could be something as simple as a bad sensor or something as big as a piston or bearing issue.
Garnet Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Could be a lot of things, not likely minor. Did you check the lower unit oil for chunks, and did the plugs have any metal on them. Yamaha doesn't have a cross border agreement it's at there discretion. That and bad parts supply keep lots from buying. Edited August 13, 2015 by Garnet
misfish Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 My warranty expired yesterday.... I hope I dont read a post that reads Warranty expired one day and no, they would not cover. Although it,s not my outboard, I WILL BE PISSED.
2 tone z71 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Posted August 13, 2015 Man I hate to hear when the yammys go down ..I've got a 60 tiller as well with a zillion hrs ..let us know asap ..don't sound to healthy thou
ecmilley Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 check oil dipstick for bearing/metal debris, check lower unit for same, since noise didnt diminish with spark plug removal gonna guess bearing went bad in driveshaft ann caused a overheat when it took out water pump turning alarm on just guessing though
Sinker Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 That sucks Mike! Doesnt souNd good! Im a true yammy fan, but these newer ones seem to be letting go too early with serious issues. I have a 93 yammy built mariner that just keeps going. Ive been talking about upgrading for years and years now, but it just keeps going....lol Good luck, and keep us posted on the results! S.
Mister G Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Had similar thing happen to my 30 year old Johnson. The dealer basically said it's not worth repairing, so I upgraded to a new E-TEC and that baby came with a 7 year warranty........but that deal may have ended in March. However they usually offer a 5 year warranty at the end of the year (September) to clear out old inventory at the dealers. If you need a new outboard, think that one over. BTW my dealer dealt in Yammies and E-TEC so I had my choice. I REALLY love the new E-TEC's. Edited August 14, 2015 by Mister G
Dutch Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 Any scortched plugs or metal debris on them? If not, prob not a piston issue.
Beavertail Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 Sorry to hear about your motor troubles, what a let down that can be. Hope it's not too serious, IS still covered by warranty and you're back out on the water soon. I'm curious to hear what the issue is.
Dara Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 Get to the original dealer. As said by others, Yammie doesn't cross border warranty, I found that out with my sled. Bought in Canada and no warranty in US..long srory. Just get to the dealer and they will likely warranty...call now and tell them so the date is recorded if you can't get there right away.
mike rousseau Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Posted August 14, 2015 Already called the dealer and they started a work order so I fall into warranty... And I agree to bringbitvto the dealer... I was just seeing if we could figure out the problem to make sure it's worth the $200-$300 I'll be spending in gas for 2 round trips and me burning 2 half days to do it... If I knew what it was and it's under $500 to fix id jelust get it repaired locally Thanks for all the input fellas... I'm gunna drop the lower unit today then run it to see if it's in the lower unit or in the engine... Also gunna pull the plugs and check lower unit oil
Garnet Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 You will be happy it's a US dealer. Here if they say 2 weeks it's coming from US. If they say 3 weeks it's on a boat and your season is done.
KraTToR Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 Already called... My dealer is a few hours away in NY State tho... Want to make sure it's not minor before towing across the boarder Video is coming Noise like that is anything but minor. Even if the dealer balks at providing warranty work, contact Yamaha directly. There's a very good chance they'll cover it. Good luck and I hope you're not off the water very long. Best fishing of the year is right around the corner..
misfish Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 Good to hear Mike. There,s a company that wants your business again
Cast-Away Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 Mike I wouldn't touch the lower end if you are already bringing it in. You could void the warranty, let them deal with it.
davew3 Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 Mike why aren't you on the road or are you ?
mike rousseau Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Posted August 14, 2015 Bringing it tomorrow... I dropped the lower unit and the sound was still there so I know it's top end... Called the marina again and told them everything I could including that the sound is there with the lower unit removed and they basically said it'll be warranty as long as I "didn't run it dry on oil or something stupid"....
mike rousseau Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Posted August 14, 2015 Mike why aren't you on the road or are you ? Because I have responsibilities in life like children and a job.... It's 2 hours each way so I need 4+ hours to do the trip
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