123chadder Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 what do you guys think of this rod for my penn line counter reel?8'6" med heavyhttp://www.berkley-fishing.com/Berkl....html#start=10i also bought this reel...http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B000...ilpage_o00_s00and am thinking of pairing it with....http://www.berkley-fishing.com/Berkl....html#start=127' medium heavyany thoughts? also,what tactics do you use to get deeper,any other advise?
Headhunter Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 To get deeper, just use a snap weight where your leader and the core meet. HH
Old Man Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 We just use 6 1/2 foot Medium Heavy Berkley Lighting Rods with a Garcia 5500LC spooled with 30lb Power Pro. Early in the season around here, we troll at moderate speed with line weights and a heavy spoon. Later in the season, to go deeper, we troll faster using Dipsy Divers or Pink Ladies with a 3 to 4 foot leader and a spoon. Had great luck with #3 Lucky Strike Canoes in Pearl.
Joeytier Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 Early season tactic? Don't use leadcore for one thing. I like flatlining smaller gangtrolls with your favorite flutter spoon 2-3 feet back. On a lake im unfamiliar with I will just troll the shoreline until I find what I'm looking for, which is usually boulder flats in 15-30 fow. Last summer we never saw surface temps over 70 so nothing heavier than a 3 oz bottom bouncer was necessary, but that can get me down 40+ feet slow trolling with braid. Lot more fun catching 2 pound Lakers on a light casting outfit and a small weight than a telephone pole with 10 tons of cable on it lol
fishdawg Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 Okuma Classic Leadcore rod, 7' medium action
chris.brock Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 Early season= flat lining I like heavier spoons like a Cleo or Cyclops. Trolling in around 15 FOW over soft bottom flats and around rocky points.
BillM Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 Like it's been mentioned, early season = shallow and planner boards. Get those baits off to the side of the boat and way back.
Freshtrax Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 A two colour setup might be deadly on simcoe early season. On smaller lakes no need.
123chadder Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) im bringing leadcore,planer board,dipsey diver,jet divers,slide diver lite bite,downrigger,inline keel weights and snap weights so ill be prepared for anything i have a medium light combo,ultra light combo,will have my lead core trolling combo,7' med heavybait cast combo and a 6'6" med casting combo... plan to work shorelines and big water where 70-90 feet comes up to 15-25 feet and work those shelves,and where i mark baitfish,plan on jigging a lot too.... i think im just going to run 4-5 colours on my penn with 250 yards of 17 pound mono for backing.. ive never run planer boards or lead core so its going to be a learning experience for sure!but a fun one! i went last year as well,this is the same trout lake that mike borger did a report on last year,met him on the dock...nice guy so far this is just a plan,and plans can change. i looked at the rods suggested,but for travel i need a 2 piece rod. Edited March 19, 2015 by 123chadder
123chadder Posted March 19, 2015 Author Report Posted March 19, 2015 also,we will be about 2+ weeks from ice out so fish will be a tad deeper i imagine
chris.brock Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) also,we will be about 2+ weeks from ice out so fish will be a tad deeper i imagine I like 2+ weeks after ice out for flat lining. The first week after ice out they seem scattered all over the water column and I end up jigging my winter spots in 70 FOW for marginal results. Last year, the May 24 weekend was prime for flat lining lakers in Haliburton. What area are you headed to? Edited March 19, 2015 by chris.brock
Joeytier Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Yep, I prefer a few weeks after ice out myself too. If the waters less than 55 on top, then they definitely wont necessarily be pushing deep
123chadder Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Posted March 20, 2015 coo,thats good news! im going to lake dayohessarah through white river air,second year.... here are a few links of the outpost....
123chadder Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Posted March 20, 2015 the first two vids mike borger made
Consigliere Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) In dec and jan this year did well trolling reef runners and taildancers on leads from 40-180ft on planers on the larry. Averaged about 8 lbs or so and most action between 15-35ft trolling between 1.5 and 3 mph Haven't tried that area after ice out but will be this year! Don't see too much need for lead core or weights early season but you never know. If you know they are in the area it's just figuring out depth and speed. Edited March 20, 2015 by Consigliere
4x4bassin Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 I spend a lot of time on the water from May till October chasing lake trout and I can tell you from experience that this early in the season there is no need for a lead core setup . The magic water temperature for lake trout is around 50 - 55 degrees so find that and you will have all the lakers you need . Where you are going I would imagine the surface water temp. wouldn't be much more then the preferred water temp. for the lake trout , putting them in the top 20 feet of water . Like Bill said , if you can you should be going out from the boat at this time of year with planner boards instead of deep or a long line . If you want to go deep there are some better options for this time of year and that being a 1 oz inline weight ( will get a spoon to 30-40ft on a troll ) or something like a deep taildancer from rapala (20-25ft) That is plenty deep enough when the surface temp. is in the 55-58 degree range. Another thing to remember is lake trout are not the smartest fish to swim but have great eyesight and feed up so they will chase your lure from 30 feet down no problem when aggressive and water clarity is good . One of my favorite patterns for early in the year is to head to the northern part of the lake and fish the bays and sheltered areas first . Reason for this is that this area warms up first and brings life to that part of the lake starting the cycle and of course the lake trout are on the top of this cycle feeding on all this new life . If you hit it right this pattern can produce big time . We actually stumbled on this situation by accident on a lake we fish and it produces year in and year out . Good luck , looks like its going to be a great time
BassMan11 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 I like 2+ weeks after ice out for flat lining. The first week after ice out they seem scattered all over the water column and I end up jigging my winter spots in 70 FOW for marginal results. Last year, the May 24 weekend was prime for flat lining lakers in Haliburton. What area are you headed to? Not to hijack the thread. But Chris what would be your best guess for ice-out in Haliburton this year? Specifically Kash Lake.
solopaddler Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Early season tactic? Don't use leadcore for one thing. I like flatlining smaller gangtrolls with your favorite flutter spoon 2-3 feet back. On a lake im unfamiliar with I will just troll the shoreline until I find what I'm looking for, which is usually boulder flats in 15-30 fow. Last summer we never saw surface temps over 70 so nothing heavier than a 3 oz bottom bouncer was necessary, but that can get me down 40+ feet slow trolling with braid. Lot more fun catching 2 pound Lakers on a light casting outfit and a small weight than a telephone pole with 10 tons of cable on it lol Well I fished the very same lake in early June last year (remember it a late ice out) that he'll be fishing this year. We caught lots of fish flatlining but caught just as many trolling leadcore. The fish are not always deep in the spring especially on bright bluebird days.
smitty55 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 I use leadcore almost exclusively with big gang trolls. A long rod helps a lot, not only to spread lines apart and help the fight, but to aid in netting fish if you are fishing alone. One more thing, 28lb line goes deeper than the 45lb due to it's narrower profile. The strength of the line is in the braid, not the lead core. Cheers
chris.brock Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 Not to hijack the thread. But Chris what would be your best guess for ice-out in Haliburton this year? A total guess, things can change quick. For Kash, the 3rd week of April.
Sinker Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 I prefer to flatline them too. More fun, and just as effective that time of year. Diving cranks work great once you have the depth dialed in. I catch a lot of lakers on taildancers......TD7 and TD9's are my go to. They cover 10-20ft good depending how much line you let out. No weight required. S.
123chadder Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Posted March 20, 2015 I spend a lot of time on the water from May till October chasing lake trout and I can tell you from experience that this early in the season there is no need for a lead core setup . The magic water temperature for lake trout is around 50 - 55 degrees so find that and you will have all the lakers you need . Where you are going I would imagine the surface water temp. wouldn't be much more then the preferred water temp. for the lake trout , putting them in the top 20 feet of water . Like Bill said , if you can you should be going out from the boat at this time of year with planner boards instead of deep or a long line . If you want to go deep there are some better options for this time of year and that being a 1 oz inline weight ( will get a spoon to 30-40ft on a troll ) or something like a deep taildancer from rapala (20-25ft) That is plenty deep enough when the surface temp. is in the 55-58 degree range. Another thing to remember is lake trout are not the smartest fish to swim but have great eyesight and feed up so they will chase your lure from 30 feet down no problem when aggressive and water clarity is good . One of my favorite patterns for early in the year is to head to the northern part of the lake and fish the bays and sheltered areas first . Reason for this is that this area warms up first and brings life to that part of the lake starting the cycle and of course the lake trout are on the top of this cycle feeding on all this new life . If you hit it right this pattern can produce big time . We actually stumbled on this situation by accident on a lake we fish and it produces year in and year out . Good luck , looks like its going to be a great time great info,but wouldnt the south end of the lake warm up first?i know in gardening its better to plant in south facing areas.... i will be using planer boards
123chadder Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Posted March 20, 2015 anyone know how to find depth temps?
BillM Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 anyone know how to find depth temps? A thermometer and a long line
Sinker Posted March 20, 2015 Report Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) I"d bet surface temps will be right around the right temp then. Your graph will tell you that. If not, it will only be a few feet down to find the colder water. That time of year, fish are looking for warmer water.....where in summer, they're looking for colder water. Your thinking backwards. If you have a portable graph that tells temp, sometimes you can just drop the transducer down a few feet and see the change in temp. The north shore of a lake gets the most sun, therefore warms up earlier than the south shore, which is shaded. Edited March 20, 2015 by Sinker
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