muskymatt Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Hahahaha the last time Kesel was a season plus player was 2008-2009 when he was with the Bruins. Man I bet he wishes he was never traded to the laffs. Once again it just proves that the blue and white disease is a career killer for players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 It's easy to play the 'what if' game. But imagine if Burke didn't do that horrible deal for Kessel. Imagine how much better the future would look with Seguin and Hamilton. Two big pieces the leafs desperatly need. It started before Burke....I am sure everybody remembers JFJ and some of his deals....a first and 2nd for Brian Leetch...Tuuka Rask for Andrew Raycroft...a first a 2nd and 4th for Vesa Toskala...Jason Blake 5 years 20 million...and Fletcher/Burke were just as bad or worse....Jeff Finger, John Michael Liles, Tim Connelly. and on and on it goes!!! And you can add a few curious deals by Nonis as well!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I love how people are using Patty Kane as their comparison...are you stinking kidding? If you played on chicago youd have a prettty good rating too. kessel plays with bozak or kadri as his centres. Just slightly different than playing with a toews or getzlaf or crosby. by the logic here, kunitz is better than kessel. He isnt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbailey Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) you used one comparison from his list, tossed in 2 of your own haha kucherov and johnson are top 2 in +/- in the league and johnson is 8th in points, kucherov 19th johnson was never drafted and kucherov is 21 Edited January 21, 2015 by jrwb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigson Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I love how people are using Patty Kane as their comparison...are you stinking kidding? If you played on chicago youd have a prettty good rating too. kessel plays with bozak or kadri as his centres. Just slightly different than playing with a toews or getzlaf or crosby. by the logic here, kunitz is better than kessel. He isnt... Difference is Kinitz understands what it takes to win. Id take Kunitz over Phil any day. Thats my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Difference is Kinitz understands what it takes to win. Id take Kunitz over Phil any day. Thats my opinion. Ya Kunitz is a complete player getting a little long in the tooth but a complete player non the less! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I love how people are using Patty Kane as their comparison...are you stinking kidding? If you played on chicago youd have a prettty good rating too. kessel plays with bozak or kadri as his centres. Just slightly different than playing with a toews or getzlaf or crosby. by the logic here, kunitz is better than kessel. He isnt... Keep apologizing for Phil he appreciates it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 If the team is winning are people still going to complain about Phils lack of defensive play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 If the team is winning are people still going to complain about Phils lack of defensive play? That remains to be seen since Phil the scoring machine arrived the Leafs average league finish(not including the shortened season) is 24th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) That remains to be seen since Phil the scoring machine arrived the Leafs average league finish(not including the shortened season) is 24th... .....and Kessel being at the top of the scoring charts has been a detriment to the Leafs? Maybe someone should just tell him to stop scoring goals and back check instead. I'm sure that would work wonders. Edited January 21, 2015 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I anyone else wondering why Nonis still has a job? He directly responsible signing/re-signing Kessel, Dion, Gardiner and Clarkson. He got all this talent for a mere $167 million! There are in deep trouble as they have no cap space left and will rely on other teams taking on their salary in a trade or buying out a player at the end of the season. Gonna be along time before we see any fruit from these saplings. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Not at all Bill just work at little harder...hard work is contagious...lazy indifferent play is also contagious....Pacioretty....21 goals plus 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbailey Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) . Edited January 21, 2015 by jrwb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I anyone else wondering why Nonis still has a job? He directly responsible signing/re-signing Kessel, Dion, Gardiner and Clarkson. He got all this talent for a mere $167 million! There are in deep trouble as they have no cap space left and will rely on other teams taking on their salary in a trade or buying out a player at the end of the season. Gonna be along time before we see any fruit from these saplings. HH He will be gone soon i dont doubt it for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I blame it all on Harold Ballard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acountdeleted Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 It started before Burke....I am sure everybody remembers JFJ and some of his deals....a first and 2nd for Brian Leetch...Tuuka Rask for Andrew Raycroft...a first a 2nd and 4th for Vesa Toskala...Jason Blake 5 years 20 million...and Fletcher/Burke were just as bad or worse....Jeff Finger, John Michael Liles, Tim Connelly. and on and on it goes!!! And you can add a few curious deals by Nonis as well!!! I can't argue anything mentioned here. The worst thing is the Kessel deal, Raycroft trade, Blake signing. The day those were released to the media I did not say 'Oh yay! Great deal!' I said 'you have got to be kidding. This is a disaster'. Now I'll admit, a few of the deals I thought 'these could work' like Leetch, Owan Nolan, and a few deals were good. We got Bernier for free, Gigurere for unloading salary and Phaneuf for spare parts. The problem is, In my lifetime, I have never seen a deal where I said 'oh no. What were they thinking?' And the deal turned out that I was wrong and they got the better end. Am I smarter then the leafs management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I can't argue anything mentioned here. The worst thing is the Kessel deal, Raycroft trade, Blake signing. The day those were released to the media I did not say 'Oh yay! Great deal!' I said 'you have got to be kidding. This is a disaster'. Now I'll admit, a few of the deals I thought 'these could work' like Leetch, Owan Nolan, and a few deals were good. We got Bernier for free, Gigurere for unloading salary and Phaneuf for spare parts. The problem is, In my lifetime, I have never seen a deal where I said 'oh no. What were they thinking?' And the deal turned out that I was wrong and they got the better end. Am I smarter then the leafs management? id hope you are making millions at your current job cause if not id head down to the ACC and plead your case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acountdeleted Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Leafs keep playing like this and we won't win another game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddler Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 And fat boy coasted in just as the puck went into the net. Oh those magic hands huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Lol...and dion beating up on all the Lady Bing candidate's....what a disgrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Matt has pee,d himself laughing so hard I,ll bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 The sens are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaf4 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Leafs keep playing like this and we won't win another game this season. We can still hope... McDavid here we come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddler Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I 'm an Ottawa fan, but even I can't watch this anymore. This is a sad excuse for a game. The Sens are doing anything they want. Wow. Nice fight Dion (sarcasm). Fire the stick boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I think Dion will be answering to someone before this game is done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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