Beans Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 My bro-in-law has had his boat and trailer parked in my back yard for the past three years...I guess the weight of all the snow the past winter has caused one of the tires to go flat...We tried pumping it up with my cigarette lighter type air pump but it wouldn't take the air...I'm guessing the tire seal has been busted...my question is: where is the best spot to place the jack?...Under the frame behind the wheel?... If and when he finds out how to remove his jack from the back of his 2010 Jeep 4x4 Wrangler we will remove the wheel from the trailer and take it in for repair...The disc he received at the time of purchase of the Jeep was no help at all and the manual on-line costs $36...I haven't bought a new vehicle for many years but back then you got a manual with the vehicle...more nickel and dimeing the public...like they don't charge enough for vehicles all ready... :wallbash:
bushart Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 Is it a real heavy boat?---if so--I'd try to get on the axle If just a light tinny---the frame should be ok Hard to judge without lookin at it
lew Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Under the frame is where I always go Norm and if the ground is soft, put a block of wood under the jack to keep it from sinking in. Edited July 7, 2014 by lew
bushart Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 yes should note--I would'nt jack on a pipe style axle---she'll bend My trailer has a square steel axle running under the trailer frame---that's the spot
DRIFTER_016 Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 I jack off the rear corner of the frame when working on the wheels of the trailer for my 18' Aluminium.
misfish Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Norm Have him go to Princess Auto and buy a scissor jack. They are compact and he can keep it on the boat. Lift the frame like others have said. And yes a good piece of wood under it. Lew Edited July 7, 2014 by Misfish
Beans Posted July 7, 2014 Author Report Posted July 7, 2014 It is an Alumacraft with the trailer that came with it brand new...he may have a buyer for it in Ports of Newcastle, so he needs to get it down there to clean it up etc...It was very heavy for him to lift while I kicked the cement block from under the hitch...too heavy to put the block back...It may be full of water for all we know... :dunno:
Terry Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 I jack off the rear corner of the frame. say what
DRIFTER_016 Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 say what Yep, when I'm working on it around the house I use my floor jack and lift off the corner and then place a jack stand in front on the side rail. If I have to jack in the field I do it using a bottle jack just behind the tire.
aplumma Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 Norm try a real air compressor if you have one. The small compressors do not have the volume to reset a bead. If you get it jacked up before you take it off take a ratchet strap and go around the tire the same direction as the tread and ratchet it till it is tight. Start inflating and as soon as you have around 10 lbs take the strap off and finish filling it. Art
misfish Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 Norm try a real air compressor if you have one. The small compressors do not have the volume to reset a bead. If you get it jacked up before you take it off take a ratchet strap and go around the tire the same direction as the tread and ratchet it till it is tight. Start inflating and as soon as you have around 10 lbs take the strap off and finish filling it. Art Oh my,talk about some old school.
Big Cliff Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 Beans I have to work tomorrow but I can try to get over on Wed. or Thursday if that works for you. I can bring my compressor and jack.
ketchenany Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 Beans I have to work tomorrow but I can try to get over on Wed. or Thursday if that works for you. I can bring my compressor and jack. There he goes again, name change coming soon, SUPERCLIFF. faster than a speeding bullet, able to leap tall buildings, move 20 yards of gravel, will fix any &$)(; up and rarely asks for any money (well for parts). . . The order of Canada is comIng your way or at least a Lindsay mention for outstanding contribution. You will live forever, we need you on this earth.
Tom McCutcheon Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 I bought a scissor jack from the wreckers for $5.00. I keep it and the appropriate lug wrenches and a piece of 3/4" plywood (8" X 16") in a small tote bag when I tow the boat. I found once, when I had a flat tire on the boat trailer, the normal bottle jack I had would not fit under the frame with no air in the tire. I had to pull everything out of the truck to get at the vehicle jack.
Walleye72 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 Norm try a real air compressor if you have one. The small compressors do not have the volume to reset a bead. If you get it jacked up before you take it off take a ratchet strap and go around the tire the same direction as the tread and ratchet it till it is tight. Start inflating and as soon as you have around 10 lbs take the strap off and finish filling it. Art I was going to say the exact same thing. Those little air compressors are handy but don't always do it. I did exactly what Art said a couple of weeks ago with my wheelbarrow tire. Ratchet strap, air compressor and everything. Worked perfect. Took 2 minutes once I got the tire off.
Entropy Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) 4x4 and a cinder block are the fastest way to jack any trailer, then block it in a safe location. Edited July 8, 2014 by Entropy
Big Cliff Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 There he goes again, name change coming soon, SUPERCLIFF. faster than a speeding bullet, able to leap tall buildings, move 20 yards of gravel, will fix any &$)(; up and rarely asks for any money (well for parts). . . The order of Canada is comIng your way or at least a Lindsay mention for outstanding contribution. You will live forever, we need you on this earth. Nothing SUPER here my friend, and I don't move quite so fast anymore LOL. When you have had so many people on this board do things to help you, you jump at the chance to repay some of that kindness! Besides that Beans is a very special buddy, I think he was probably the very first member of this board that I actually hooked up with to do some fishing. Got to try to take care of him, he is a legend! BTW Beans, let me know which day works for you?
Beans Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Posted July 8, 2014 "BTW Beans, let me know which day works for you? " Either day is good for me Cliff...Uncle Dave was making noises about coming up on Friday but I have my doubts...I can call him tonight and let him know what is happening...or should we just surprise him...?
Big Cliff Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 Just surprise him my friend, I am not available on Friday. I'll try for early tomorrow morning if it isn't raining too hard.
Fish Farmer Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 (too heavy to put the block back...It may be full of water for all we know...) He didn't have the drain plug removed and stored? was my first thought. I'm sure Cliff will get you fixed up.
Beans Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) My bro-in-law probably knows less than me about boats but buys bigger and better ones... The "Tin of Beans" and trailer only cost me $250 until two of the best people Nanook (Jack) and Cliff tore it apart then handed me a shopping list for new parts and plywood for seats and transom ($250 after machining the new hubs)... Good times and a labor of love...LOL Edited July 9, 2014 by Beans
Beans Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Posted July 9, 2014 Cliff was here early this morning with his jack and compressor and left about a half an hour later after he double checked the air pressure in both tires...WHAT A GUY EH !!! Called my Bro-in-law and left a message that his boat is good to go... Thanks again my friend...
Big Cliff Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 Beans old buddy, It was my pleasure, it's easy when you have the right tools and I always enjoy any excuse to get to see you!
aplumma Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 I didn't tell him about the starter fluid way of inflating a tire. Art
Big Cliff Posted July 9, 2014 Report Posted July 9, 2014 I didn't tell him about the starter fluid way of inflating a tire. Art That would have just been crazy Art. Christ, Beans with starter fluid and a lighter under a boat right beside some beautiful trees and the house only 20' away????? I'd have had a lot more than a tire to fix LOL. BTW I have used that technique and it does work but I'll bet someone has been hurt with it!
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