chessy Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2968670 A woman was taken to Peterborough Regional Health Centre for treatment of injuries after a snowmobile struck an ice hut on the north side of Chemong Lake around 8:30 p.m. Tuesday. The collision happened about 30 metres from the shore near Gifford Dr. on the Ennismore side of the lake. The woman was a passenger on the back of the snowmobile and suffered neck, rib and finger injuries. The male driver of the snowmobile suffered minor injuries and was treated at the scene by paramedics. Smith-Ennismore-Lakefield Township firefighters were called to the scene to bring the woman to the shore so that paramedics wouldn't have to venture on the ice. Ice fishing is in its second season on Chemong Lake after being allowed by the Ministry of Natural Resources.
Michael_Brown Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 I thought the little line at the end of the article was unnecessary. Just wait and see if they blame ice fishing for this, in the media. They won't mention the hundreds of snowmobiles flying around the lake or driver error. The ice angler is a victim in this, their ice hut and equipment has been destroyed. The expense of replacing it will be theirs. I feel sorry for the persons hurt in this accident.
Fisherman Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 I am not saying the hut owner in question is at fault, but it should be law that huts require a certain amount of reflective tape on each side, at a prescribed height. My hut is painted red and covered in reflectors because I don't want a sled crashing through at 80mph while I am fishing! You're saying the hut owner is not at fault but in the same sentence you say that the hut owner is required to put out bells and whistles to have sleeders avoid his hut. Maybe the sleeders shouldn't over drive their headlights (speed/reaction time) and it would most likely solve the problem for both sides. Why do others alway s have to change things to accomodate the ones that cause the problem.
Jonny Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 Maybe the sleeders shouldn't over drive their headlights (speed/reaction time) and it would most likely solve the problem for both sides. Why do others alway s have to change things to accomodate the ones that cause the problem. I think I'd have to agree with that. The onus is on the sledder. We've got rocky shoals, rockpiles, etc. around here, not to mention pressure cracks that can set up a solid wall of ice a few feet high. None of that is going to be marked with reflector tape. If it's not a moonlit night, or if there's blowing snow, you have to slow down.
dannyboy Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 I hope everyone on involved is ok. Why is it that we don't like the Government interfering with our lives and paying more taxes but at the first sign of trouble there is a call for a law? smells of socialistic brainwashing to me. If we continually want the government to make sure no one gets hurt, then hand over your paycheck comrades and get in line with the sheep. Nothing personal just an observation. Dan
DRIFTER_016 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) A lot of places require ice huts have reflectors. I didn't know they weren't mandatory in Ontario. Maybe they should be. They require you to register them, how hard would it be to require a 6"X6" relfective square on each corner? It would save the careless sledder from damaging a hut in the dark. And it would save the ice fisherman from getting run over by the careless sledder. I believe I read about an incident last winter where a sled went right through a hut with 2 fishermen inside. They were badly injured in the accident. Reflectors just make sense to me. IMHO Edited February 9, 2011 by DRIFTER_016
Flyboy Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 Sometime I sincerely questioned the 'careless' part of the sledders . . . I was almost ran over by a group of sledders that deliberately drove within arm reach of ice-fishers standing in broad daylight. Heck, I was in a bright red float suit (with reflective tapes) and standing tall. There is no excuse for not seeing all the people there. They manages to ran over and destroyed my bright orange ice-scoop as they passed so close. Cheap thrills for them, not so much for me.
Dara Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) If I had a hut, I would be getting a bunch of triangles from the dollar store for it. I can't figure out the guys that paint their huts white. I also don't want it to be a law because somebody would just steal my triangles and then I would be charged. I drive a sled and you gots to pay attention on them things. You can get hurt bad if you don't. Hope they are all ok. Edited February 9, 2011 by Dara
Jonny Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 We have to jump through so many government regulatory "hoops" that it raises my hackles to think we need to find another thing that we can be fined for not doing. Snowmobiles and ice huts have had to share space on the ice in Ontario for 40+ years now and we haven't needed the huts to be marked with anything but a free registration number. If snowmobilers are getting faster and more careless, maybe the thing should be turned around. Maybe we should impose a max speed on sleds and mandate brighter headlights for them. Or maybe we should just leave the whole thing alone and not get all lathered up over a random and atypical accident.
Joey Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 Why is it that we don't like the Government interfering with our lives and paying more taxes but at the first sign of trouble there is a call for a law? smells of socialistic brainwashing to me. If we continually want the government to make sure no one gets hurt, then hand over your paycheck comrades and get in line with the sheep. Nothing personal just an observation. Dan Agreed !!!!!
skeeter Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 I agree with the reflectors. I dont want to be wokin up in the middle of the night by some idiot flying thru my hut. That would put me in a REALLY bad mood!!! All the way around!!!!!!!
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 sleds are so fast now, even reflectors would stop people from being idiots.
Twocoda Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 OK here goes nuthin...."Skeeter" and "common sense" in the same sentence... Skeeter seems to have common sense...when it comes to safety you shouldnt have to be mandated it should just come natural..way to go Skeets... have you ever noticed they only put railings up after someone falls off a cliff?
jimmer Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 Everyone should do whatever they can for safety reasons. Maybe we wouldn't have the government telling us what to do all time if we all used common sense. No blame here, just an accident! All huts should have reflectors on each side and snowmobile drivers should watch for unknown dangers on the ice, then maybe we wouldn't read about this kind of thing. My son almost ran into an unmarked hut on Pigeon and his headlights are amazing. I remember years ago on Simcoe seeing a snowmobile crashing into a hut in some heavy fog, it was a good thing no one was in the hut. The snowmobiles back then were nothing like the ones today and that crash was scary.
lookinforwalleye Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 Well I don`t have a hut on the ice but if I did it would have reflective tape on it,it would be painted blaze orange and it would have solar powered flashing lights and perhaps a machine gun turret as well. People that are dumb enough to drive around the lake at 80 MPH need all the help we can give them so they don`t kill themselves or us!!!
lookinforwalleye Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 Everyone should do whatever they can for safety reasons. Maybe we wouldn't have the government telling us what to do all time if we all used common sense. No blame here, just an accident! All huts should have reflectors on each side and snowmobile drivers should watch for unknown dangers on the ice, then maybe we wouldn't read about this kind of thing. My son almost ran into an unmarked hut on Pigeon and his headlights are amazing. I remember years ago on Simcoe seeing a snowmobile crashing into a hut in some heavy fog, it was a good thing no one was in the hut. The snowmobiles back then were nothing like the ones today and that crash was scary. There seems to be a correlation between the speed of the sled and the intelligence of the owner, faster=dumber
Dara Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 sleds are so fast now, even reflectors would stop people from being idiots. Mine got exactly 1000 miles on it last week, and there is nothing slow about it. I see no need for a speed limit though...just another cash grab is all it will be. Limit the bass boat speeds first. And again...highway warning reflector triangles are a dollar each at the dollar store.
Dara Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 There seems to be a correlation between the speed of the sled and the intelligence of the owner, faster=dumber I think its more geographical...the further south
Guest ThisPlaceSucks Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 Mine got exactly 1000 miles on it last week, i'm jealous. I've only put a few hundred miles on this year after it being out of action for 2 weeks with electrical issues... looking outside at the 15cm of powder in my driveway makes me think this weekend will be some great sledding! SAFE sledding!
Dara Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 i'm jealous. I've only put a few hundred miles on this year after it being out of action for 2 weeks with electrical issues... looking outside at the 15cm of powder in my driveway makes me think this weekend will be some great sledding! SAFE sledding! You got a permit? I'm likely riding this side this weekend.
Jer Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 Smith-Ennismore-Lakefield Township firefighters were called to the scene to bring the woman to the shore so that paramedics wouldn't have to venture on the ice. [/font] I thought this was interesting. This accident occured very close to the location of the polar plunge last weekend. There were almost 2000 people on the ice watching the plunge...and the paramedics won't venture on the ice when it's almost 20" thick?
misfish Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 Limit the bass boat speeds first. How else can ya keep up to them. Dont think they just hit huts. One day years back on long shoal,we seen two sleds at mach speed colide.Bodies and limbs and machine parts, flying in the air.That was some scary stuff to see.
lookinforwalleye Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 I think its more geographical...the further south I would not argue with you on that statement!
Old Man Posted February 9, 2011 Report Posted February 9, 2011 This isn't new. The town I grew up in in Western Manitoba had a guy hit a dock at night back in the late 70's. Took his head off. Of course speed and alcohol was a contributing factor. I've sledded almost my whole life and from the things I've seen, I have come to the conclusion that there is no cure for stupidity.
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