craigdritchie Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 I guess we all knew it was just a matter of time - pasted below is a news wire report issued an hour ago confirming the presence of adult Asian carp upstream of the electrical barrier designed to keep them out of the Great Lakes. The fish was electroshocked in Lake Calumet, which flows directly into Lake Michigan near Chicago, IL. Craig Asian Carp Found Above Great Lakes Electric Barrier A bighead Asian carp has been found in Lake Calumet, the first confirmed above the electric barrier system designed by the Army Corps of Engineers to prevent the fish from entering the Great Lakes. The Asian Carp Regional Coordinating Committee announced the finding and said it plans to follow up with more sampling, then with efforts that include netting and electrofishing in the next several weeks. The 34.6-inch, 19.6-pound bighead carp was discovered about six miles between Lake Michigan and the T.J. O'Brien Lock and Dam during regular samplings taken by an Illinois Department of Natural Resources contracted commercial fisherman. Within the Chicago Area Waterway System, this was just the second Asian carp discovered. Silver and bighead are the two most aggressive types of Asian carp. A common weight for either of them is 60 pounds and they can consume up to half of their body weight in a day. If they establish sustainable populations in the Great Lakes, they could devastate these ecosystems. In addition, Asian carp in the Mississippi and Illinois rivers have physically injured boaters by leaping out of the water when disturbed. "We commend the IDNR for their ongoing vigilance in catching this fish and identifying evidence that the Asian carp has now been above the barrier. The Great Lakes Boating Federation advises the less-frequent use of the Chicago-area locks," said Ned Dikmen, chairman of the Great Lakes Boating Federation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegitFish Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 "physically injured boaters, by leaping out of the water when disturbed" we are screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1OZ Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Holy Carp! That kinda sucks, I enjoy carp fishing, but I enjoy fishing for other species as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhenrygsr Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 (edited) <object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value=" name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object> Edited June 24, 2010 by Henry Nguyen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexcba Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 that's just scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutologist Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Dear Pres. Obama, Thank you for ignoring the problem, your promise to clean and preserve the Great Lakes has obviously been kept. Putting faith in a barrier that was continually proven not to work was a great plan. I suggest you take up waterskiiing in the Chicago area, for a chance to fully address this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 time for "Great Lakes Bowfishing Tours" "Flying Carp Adventures" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigdritchie Posted June 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 time for "Great Lakes Bowfishing Tours" "Flying Carp Adventures" Forget skeet shooting - this looks like it could be way more fun Joking aside, this has serious implications for everything from walleye and perch to steelhead and salmon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadadude Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 (edited) Dear Pres. Obama, Thank you for ignoring the problem, your promise to clean and preserve the Great Lakes has obviously been kept. Putting faith in a barrier that was continually proven not to work was a great plan. I suggest you take up waterskiiing in the Chicago area, for a chance to fully address this issue. Putting faith in Obama is a joke. what a let down he turned out to be, all he does is and nothing gets done He should know better he is from there Edited June 24, 2010 by canadadude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gbfisher Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Forget skeet shooting - this looks like it could be way more fun Joking aside, this has serious implications for everything from walleye and perch to steelhead and salmon. There's obviously no means of stopping them. How's that saying go ? Can't beat em...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushart Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 They should poison that lake for the greater good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadadude Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 They could have closed down the canals like they were told to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Maybe it’s time to go hog-wild with the rotenone and antimycin Are there anymore locks between Lake Calumet and Lake Michigan? Looking at Google Maps, it appears to be clear swimming for the carp to the Great Lakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livinisfishin Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 They are just like immigrants, they have their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perchslayer666 Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 They are just like immigrants, they have their place. What do you mean by this? Are you comparing Asain Carp to people? Please Explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discophish Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 <pinching myself> ... is it true? You mean my dream of actually catching a fish has come closer to a reality? I never thought I would need a baseball glove to catch my first fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 <pinching myself> ... is it true? You mean my dream of actually catching a fish has come closer to a reality? I never thought I would need a baseball glove to catch my first fish. A protective cup might also come in handy as well These are the big leagues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJQ Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 That video is disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l2p Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 You guys think that video was disturbing check these ones out... we really cant let it get to this.. http://www.youtube.com/user/IlliniGus#p/a/u/1/PdcQ56OpxNE looks like the folks down south have managed to deal with them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splashhopper Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 They are just like immigrants, they have their place. As a guy that is happily married to an IMMIGRANT for the last 16 years I have learned that REDNECK'S have their place too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bailey Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 For those who say they can't be eradicated I have two words - passenger pigeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmeh Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 Well this may be the first confirmed catch, but I suspect they've been in the lake for much longer. Just like the case of cougars in Ontario, the MNR has just confirmed what many have known for years. This certainly is bad news but I will hold out hope that this will not be the end of the great lakes. Keep in mind that both zebra mussels and gobies were supposed to destroy the lakes as well. Large ecosystems such as the great lakes are resilient. Not good, but I'm not going to sell the fishing gear yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livinisfishin Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 All I meant was that as humans we can be accepted to wherever we move to or travel. What's so bad about nature taking its course and seeing how it plays out. Sorry splashhopper I shouldn't have used the word immigrant, and I should have gone more in depth at the very beginning. Yes I am comparing this species of fish to humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 it's not nature taking its course...it's a non native invasive species that was introduced....unlike other introduced species which have worked out very well we know it won't be that way with asian carp.....we don't need to see how it will play out....we know how it will play out, ie: Mississippi river... read up on it...do you really want to chance the great lakes ending up like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 25, 2010 Report Share Posted June 25, 2010 All I meant was that as humans we can be accepted to wherever we move to or travel. What's so bad about nature taking its course and seeing how it plays out. Sorry splashhopper I shouldn't have used the word immigrant, and I should have gone more in depth at the very beginning. Yes I am comparing this species of fish to humans. I didn't read anything negative into your comment... in this day of political correctness, I am afraid people with a personal agenda or bias will take almost anything one says to be racist or just misinterprets everything as racist it sucks to just talk without check each word or phrase for political correctness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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