Riparian Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 (edited) The Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake, the only venomous snake in the province of Ontario. Its seems unlikely that any snakes can survive our winters, but apparently they do. http://www.massasauga.ca/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Massasauga_Rattlesnake http://www.ojibway.ca/rattler.htm According to my research, they are only present in four areas across Ontario. Windsor, the wainfleet whats his name in the Niagra region, the Bruce Peninsula and the eastern shores of Georgian Bay. Has anyone ever ran into one before? I would love to see one in the wild. From a distance. Edited April 8, 2008 by Riparian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 First hand... Too many to care for.. I'll leave it at that considering the last guy that killed one around here they tried to charge $250,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast-Away Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Try camping at the Massasauga PP. I've seen them at my campsite twice now in the last 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riparian Posted April 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Try camping at the Massasauga PP. I've seen them at my campsite twice now in the last 4 years. Will do. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskymike Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 My Grand Mother was bit in the Big Toe about 15 years ago by one in Sturgeon Bay Provincial Park. Her leg was Black up to her mid thigh. Go up to Pointe Au Baril and trek through the bush a bit. Or take a drive in the evening just after 5 in August when the sun is no longer on the road, you will see at least 3 a night keeping warm on the asphalt. From Parry Sound to the Key, there are more then you want to see. When we had our cottage, I saw about 30-35 a summer. If ya get close just stay at least 2 of their body lengths away, they can only strike 1/3 or is it 2/3's of their length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Most rock piles up the east shore.. Beausoleil Island National Park...The Penninsula of land between Penetang and Midland Harbours (= my yard), Three Lakes campground south of Parry Sound and darn near everywhere else from Midland to the French River. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappieperchhunter Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 My parents had a cottage on the Bruce just South of Tobermory on a little Lake called Larry's Lake. Willow Creek was about 2 miles away. Always saw rattlers over in that area just sunning themselves on the gravel road. If we where up for a weeks holidays in the summer and I didn't see at least one snake during the week I felt cheated!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapshooter Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 We have a cottage on Georgian Bay out of Honey Harbour. Lots of rattlers out that way, as wayne indicated Beausoleil has a lot there too. Amazing creatures. A lot of ppl mistake fox snakes for rattlers as the fox snake has developed the ability to mimic the rattling sound of a rattle snake. They 'vibrate' their tails in the grass/bush/undercover and imitate the sound of a rattler very well. Fox snakes grow much larger though. The Massasauga doesn't get very big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillj Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Only ever seen one alive .. sunning itslef on the front porch .. near Wiarton ... and saw one dead (Sea Gulls had made a meal of it) near the shore in Britt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FisherMike Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 saw one a long long time ago on a class trip to camp celtic on the bruce peninsula. one of the events at the camp is a "rattlesnake hunt". before we left on the hunt our councillor warned us not to get our hopes up as they hadnt seen one in quite some time. sure enough we walked out the door and there was a snake right there. what was supposed to be a 2 hour snake hunt only took about 30 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 it would be cool to have a "hot" as a pet. right now i just have a ball python but want to start a nice collection. definitely wouldnt go hungry as i breed my own mice and rats my dad and his buddies saw one by wasaga beach one year when they were fishing. i have yet to see one in the wild but cant wait until i finally do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Used to be a few around the Kawarthas. First one I ever saw was at Burleigh Falls when I was very young. I've seen them around Owen Sound and when I worked with a logging crew just north of Pointe Au Baril. There are some on the islands in Mississauga Bay just west of Blind River. I've also seen them in the Port Loring area. If you have an allergy to bee venom, you want to give them room, their venom is chemically very close but stronger. They get pretty thick but not very long, a big one is about 2 feet. Given a strike range of 1/3 of their body length, an 8" boot should keep you safe, also they're designed to strike downwards. They're not an aggresive animal, if you don't bother them, they'll leave you alone. When I was logging at Pte Au Baril, I was skidding logs and always checked my machine well before I climbed on in the morning and I took a good look before I started shoving a choker under a log. There were lots of them there. One of the sawyers had one crawl across his boot while he was cutting a tree down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 They're around. GB area has lots of them. Nothing to be worried about either. Chances are you won't even know that the snake is there and if you get to close, it'll rattle and that will send shivers down your spine. It will ruin the rest of the day for you 'cause you'll be keeping your eyes open for them. If I stumble across one I'll have my snake hook ready and shoot it... with my camera! Well, that was lame. Do not disclose any exact locations of these animals, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky or Specks Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 They can be quite far inland as well. Coming back in the evening from a day of bass fishing from my float tube on Pence Lake. Walking down railway track, My foot lands on a tie and TRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I just about jump outta my skin. About 30 inches long and as thick as my wrist curled up in the hollow beside the tie getting the warmth from it. Didnt expect to see one so far from Georgian Bay. Pence Lake is just north of Big Chute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 have seen one close up while hiking around the tobermory area. heard the rattle and saw it about 3-4 metres from the trail ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 A few run ins with them at a couple camps at Pointe Au Baril, one like 2 feet from my leg when I came down the steps out of the cabin. Also some dead ones on the road going into the camp area by the Shell station. LOL I have never seen one here in Ohio except in zoos and such, no hurry to do so either. Not afraid of snakes and such, just places me and my family should be and places they should be. Kids don`t look? Last one was like 88 or 89, last or second last time up there, didn`t stop going there because of them, just too much else going on. Kind of cool to see though, don`t remember any over 2 feet or so. Think me and one of my brothers and my buddy saw one dead on the road going into the camp when we were walking up to Kennedy`s store, thought it was a plant, someone put it there to scare people. That was like 1964, we asked the camp owner and he told us to stay out of the woods. Good Plan! I never wandered much, especially were I couldn`t clearly see the ground. There were also bears there, moose, and other big animals crashing through the bush. Just a lot of woods and bush in the area up there, lots of places for animals to be, expect the unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Years ago when I lived in French River we saw many of them, I was out picking worms one night and had one actually come at me, I kept backing away from it but inspite of what MNR will tell you, it was quite agressive. Back in the late 60's MNR denied there were any in the area. My Mother-in-law attended a community meeting and one of the topics was the snakes being seen in the area. I don't know the name of the MNR rep that was chairing the meeting but when the topic was mentioned he insisted there were none in the area. Without a word, my Mother-in-law walked up to the front with a sac in her hand and plunked it down on the table right in front of them, yup, inside the bag were two good size ones, alive and well. As they just about fell over each other trying to get away from the table they finally had to agree that there MIGHT be the odd one in the area LOL. She laughed about the look on that MNR reps face for years after that. In loving memory of Sibble (Mary) Mines; gosh I miss that woman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikehunter Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I was out picking worms one night and had one actually come at me, Would have made a hell of a surprise for someone if you had put it in the bait bucket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunkerbasshunter Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Years ago when I lived in French River we saw many of them, I was out picking worms one night and had one actually come at me, I kept backing away from it but inspite of what MNR will tell you, it was quite agressive. Back in the late 60's MNR denied there were any in the area. My Mother-in-law attended a community meeting and one of the topics was the snakes being seen in the area. I don't know the name of the MNR rep that was chairing the meeting but when the topic was mentioned he insisted there were none in the area. Without a word, my Mother-in-law walked up to the front with a sac in her hand and plunked it down on the table right in front of them, yup, inside the bag were two good size ones, alive and well. As they just about fell over each other trying to get away from the table they finally had to agree that there MIGHT be the odd one in the area LOL. She laughed about the look on that MNR reps face for years after that. In loving memory of Sibble (Mary) Mines; gosh I miss that woman! That was great!!!!!!!!!! i love yoru mother in law! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out4Trout Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 We saw one at Moon River while fishing. Interesting, the rattle was more like an insect buzz. This was not a fox snake, but a Massassauga - as the rattle was quite visible. Glad we don't have Timber rattlers here, they are in Pennsylvania in the mountains - saw one there at a friend's hunting camp in the woodpile. Much larger and scarier than our little Massassaugas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunkerbasshunter Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 about 15 years ago a friend of mine father ran over one with a lawnmower, a small one about 10 inches at the most. it was diffenatey a M rattler from what the mnr told him. Get this........It was in oakville close to the 16 mile creek area. I used to fish this area all the time when i was a kid. after that you sure watched your step walking down that area lol. I have never seen or heard of one that far east or that close to the gta before. I have heard they are in the elora area now as well. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITEME Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Got and cornered a small one about 5 years ago on a Cub trip at Royal Botanical Gardens it was bagged and tagged and released north Made for an interesting project for a couple of weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addy79 Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Massassauga PP is full of em...last time i portaged to clear lake we stayed on an island on the south end and saw one sunning itself on the rocks. beautiful snake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallyboss Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 If you ever see me screaming and running !!! Just go towards where I just came from and you might be able to see one!!! Or it might just be a small garter snake but they are all the same to me. I see some on TV and I change the channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch312 Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 If you ever see me screaming and running !!! Just go towards where I just came from and you might be able to see one!!! Or it might just be a small garter snake but they are all the same to me. I see some on TV and I change the channel. want me to post a video of my ball python eating a live rat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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