offgriddin Posted June 14, 2019 Report Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) hello all!i am a nature nut and found this forum on a search looking for off grid info getting ready for early retirement,selling my home this fall and im dead serious about moving north,hopefully going off the grid. im either looking for a remote,private wilderness year round trailer park or a lot on a 4 season road,on or very near water....id like to get a travel trailer for my first couple years.then upgrade to a cabin that is off grid...id love to start with a small off grid package to power my trailer,a package i can later upgrade when i build a cottage.ideally,i would like to be in an unorganized township for low taxes and no need for permits.i would possibly consider taking over a lease of the crown from someone does anyone have any info on real estate,rv parks,off grid systems or help with any of my questions/.i would certainly appreciate any info i find myself feeling excitement i have not felt since i was a young man!its very welcome feeling!!!lol im looking for property anywhere between blind river and wawa Edited June 14, 2019 by offgriddin 1
captpierre Posted June 14, 2019 Report Posted June 14, 2019 Lots to consider. Unless you’re a hermit and love bugs you need to think this thing through. There was a great thread this winter about this. I’ll try to find it.
offgriddin Posted June 14, 2019 Author Report Posted June 14, 2019 i understand the concerns,i have spent half my life in the bush.i have been on numerous hunting trips,our family has a remote hunt camp,fishing trips,including very remote fly ins....i have been dreaming of this for 30 years!!!!! im not selling my home till the fall so i have 4 months to figure everything out...hence starting this thread
offgriddin Posted June 14, 2019 Author Report Posted June 14, 2019 and i am kind of a hermit...i very much enjoy the solitude of nature
captpierre Posted June 14, 2019 Report Posted June 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, offgriddin said: and i am kind of a hermit...i very much enjoy the solitude of nature 5 minutes ago, offgriddin said: i understand the concerns,i have spent half my life in the bush.i have been on numerous hunting trips,our family has a remote hunt camp,fishing trips,including very remote fly ins....i have been dreaming of this for 30 years!!!!! im not selling my home till the fall so i have 4 months to figure everything out...hence starting this thread Can’t find the thread. I’ve heard that lots of folks have cashed in on their GTA real estate and moved north. Many have returned to civilization. Issues: Loneliness. Especially in cold season. Bugs. Shopping - all kinds, food, hardware/lumber etc. Fuel. Emergency and ongoing health care. Internet. Cellular service. Potable water. Oh and did I mention bugs. Ridiculous for 2 months potentially. Electricity is important. Solar and wind is fine for lights and radio. But when you need to run a motor you need lots of amps. When we bought our 4 season cottage, that we’d eventually retire to, I was reminded of these issues. Was good advice. Good luck.
offgriddin Posted June 14, 2019 Author Report Posted June 14, 2019 ill just say i have a very strong belief that we should live a certain way,and im going to do it.i spend months at a time at our hunt camp,like i said before i actually prefer my solitude,and do not like modern attitudes...i want to be alone,well,me and my 2 dogs. i have thoroughly thought this through!!!!every single aspect....loneliness was a concern,but not anymore,i spend 99% of my time alone,might as well do it where i want to be
grt1 Posted June 16, 2019 Report Posted June 16, 2019 if you are bound to do this, why not look around the area you want to be in, then go to the mnr and ask if you can get a land use permit for that site,
pics Posted June 16, 2019 Report Posted June 16, 2019 Tough to find any place like that on a real estate site. Most properties where I moose hunt have a handmade signs when they sell their property. You may need to drive up there and check small local stores to find anything. I was considering buying a camp in Nova Scotia and word of mouth seems to be a good way to find a hidden gem rather than the real estate people.
Jmeyer Posted June 17, 2019 Report Posted June 17, 2019 Unorganized townships are indeed cheap on taxes which I believe are paid direct to the province simular to leases to the mnr, however neighbouring municipalities which service unorganized residents for emergency services in some cases charge you directly for police and ambulance. Price wise the blind river area is far cheaper then north of the Sault, good places to look are kijiji, dignam land and recreationland.net 1
offgriddin Posted June 17, 2019 Author Report Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Jmeyer said: thank you for the kinks!ive searched the dignam land and recreationland.net before...kijiji has property and seems to be the best site there is an organization called Boreal Forest Medieval Village,they buy big chunks of waterfront property and sell off .5 acre waterfront lots for $2500.they are on their second project,the first was a great success...im considering buying some property from them Edited June 17, 2019 by offgriddin
Old Ironmaker Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 There are more than a few television series that feature individuals and families that are doing what you wish to do in the near future. In Alaska, The Yukon as well in the lower 48. Bing watch them and decide if you can really do what they are. A few months hunting in the bush alone won't prepare you for 12 months of talking to yourself, then eventually answering yourself. In my opinion from watching these shows it's a lot like crime. You can't learn it in a classroom or start it late in life. If you are retiring I take it you aren't a spring chicken. I see fitness is a huge part of being off grid. For those that are middle age they have a support family of more then a few kids. It appears 60 years old seems to be the age that one living off grid has to tap out if they are indeed solo. If I was 40 years younger I was nuts enough to try it, but, I would have someone to keep me warm other than my Dog. If someone tells you that you are nuts take it as a compliment. Good luck and don't let anyone tell you that you can not do it. And if you try and find you are unable to do it you did not fail, it simply is a life lesson that prepares you for the next adventure in your life. 2
Jmeyer Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 20 hours ago, offgriddin said: thank you for the kinks!ive searched the dignam land and recreationland.net before...kijiji has property and seems to be the best site there is an organization called Boreal Forest Medieval Village,they buy big chunks of waterfront property and sell off .5 acre waterfront lots for $2500.they are on their second project,the first was a great success...im considering buying some property from them I would tread careful with this deal, I tried to read between the lines on the website and seen some red flags. Licensed lots? Annual fees for services? Sounds like a trailer park and if it is do they have approvals? I know it's unorganized townships they target but 75 unserviced lots on a water front would have a environmental impact. If it's a license vs deed or lease how's your investment protected? Sounds like they are more interested in the land investment part then actually giving back to the investors
offgriddin Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Posted June 18, 2019 ok,i have stated i want this,i dont need anybody explaining to me how hard a life it is...im fully aware of every mental and physical aspect of this life choice!!!
offgriddin Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jmeyer said: I would tread careful with this deal, I tried to read between the lines on the website and seen some red flags. Licensed lots? Annual fees for services? Sounds like a trailer park and if it is do they have approvals? I know it's unorganized townships they target but 75 unserviced lots on a water front would have a environmental impact. If it's a license vs deed or lease how's your investment protected? Sounds like they are more interested in the land investment part then actually giving back to the investors .i have my father looking into it,hes been a real estate broker/seller for over 35 years... thanks for the heads up Edited June 18, 2019 by offgriddin
offgriddin Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) this is why i want to be alone in the bush!!!lmao im not asking for opinions on whether i can mentally or physically handle it,im just asking about real estate ill take this question to another forum.... thanks anyways Edited June 18, 2019 by offgriddin
Headhunter Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 Welcome to the world of on-line forums. You'll get some of the info your looking for and a lot of what you are not. You gotta weed through to find what you want. Good luck to you! HH
BillM Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 Probably the wrong forum to even start this topic on.
offgriddin Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, BillM said: Probably the wrong forum to even start this topic on. where should i post,a cooking forum?lmao
offgriddin Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Posted June 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Headhunter said: Welcome to the world of on-line forums. You'll get some of the info your looking for and a lot of what you are not. You gotta weed through to find what you want. Good luck to you! HH thanks HH,appreciate it... human nature to give advice i guess,even when its not asked...all good
offgriddin Posted June 18, 2019 Author Report Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, BillM said: Probably the wrong forum to even start this topic on. General Discussion Follow 44 Talk about fishing, hunting, the great outdoors or whatever you like in here! Keep it clean! i guess your right...lol
Headhunter Posted June 18, 2019 Report Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) Yup! Hence the name Ontario Fishing Community... we talk about everything here, not just the outdoors. Probably one of the reasons this board has been around as long as it has. Hang in there, no one wants to see you fail here, just wanting to ensure that you have your duckies lined up tail to beak! HH Edited June 18, 2019 by Headhunter spelling!
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