Old Ironmaker Posted June 5, 2016 Report Posted June 5, 2016 I thought you had mariners? Yes, Mercury Mariner, exactly the same for that year but the badging Sinker.
fisherman7 Posted June 5, 2016 Report Posted June 5, 2016 On the boat/motor front it's very hard to find a boat/motor combo that's not a Merc unless you go to a G3. Heard from a dealer that Merc has bought Lund and a few other boat manufacturers. I've been looking for the last few years in anticipation of my move to cottage country. For me, it will only be either a grey or silver motor on the back of my ???? Haven't decided yet but leaning towards a G3.
captpierre Posted June 5, 2016 Report Posted June 5, 2016 Had a CO check us on Nippising 9 yrs ago. Had a Crestliner with 2 str Yammy. I asked him how the boat held up. I had just bought my Lund and before that had considered a Crestliner. He said it had performed well and it took a pounding on Nippising's big water. Says a lot.
jjcanoe Posted June 5, 2016 Report Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) So, I bought a brand new Crestliner Vision 1700 Wt last July, this was after nearly a year of looking at pretty much all makes and models (both new and used) in and around the size I was looking for. Only 2 things I'm not fond of with my boat. 7"+ fish finder, needs a ram mount, although this seems to be an issue on just about every make and model of boat. Livewell size on my vision is only 13 gallons.(seems bigger but that's what it's listed at) This seems very small for some reason. I don't keep a lot of fish, however if I was in a tournament this might be an issue. Other than those 2 minor annoyances, I'm really happy with my Vision. Huge, forward storage, battery compartment holds 2 group 27's, decent rear storage, consoles are laid out nice, fit and finish are top notch. My two favorite things about this boat are the jumps seats at the back, this gives you a huge rear casting deck without losing cabin floor space (like the foldout seats) as well as not having to shift gear around to fold those seats out. If you ever plan to upgrade things, run wire, add electronics, stereo/speakers, on board chargers etc, (I've done all of the above) they (Crestliner ) made it really easy. Wiring conduits are very accessible as is the fuse block. Need bow electronics? No problem wiring was already there. Speakers? wire already there. Knock outs for the speakers, already there. Added a pedestal base on the rear deck, cutout was already there! The j-hook system for the cover is really slick as well! I had a Lund before this. My new boat can take a good pounding on Lake Erie, Huron or Ontario, as well as smaller cottage country lakes (so far so good) Edited June 5, 2016 by jjcanoe
jjcanoe Posted June 5, 2016 Report Posted June 5, 2016 Also came with a 115 Mercury four stroke, which from online industry and user reviews is pretty much bulletproof, however I've only owned Mercury, so I may be a bit biased
John Bacon Posted June 5, 2016 Report Posted June 5, 2016 On the boat/motor front it's very hard to find a boat/motor combo that's not a Merc unless you go to a G3. Heard from a dealer that Merc has bought Lund and a few other boat manufacturers. I've been looking for the last few years in anticipation of my move to cottage country. For me, it will only be either a grey or silver motor on the back of my ???? Haven't decided yet but leaning towards a G3. Yes, Mercury owns Lund, Crestliner, Princecraft, Lowe, and some fibreglass brands. Yamaha owns G3 boats. There still are some independant brands such as Alumacraft, Legend, and Starcraft/Smokercraft/Sylvan (all one company). But Legend still pair their boats with Mercuray. If you go with Alumacraft or Starcraft/Smokercraft/Sylvan then you may get to choose the motor for the combo providing that the dealer carries more than one brand of motor.
Mister G Posted June 5, 2016 Report Posted June 5, 2016 When I purchased my 2015 Polar Kraft I had my choice of a E-TEC, Merc, Honda or Yammy......
Ksword Posted June 5, 2016 Report Posted June 5, 2016 I have a FishHawk 1650 with a 90 Merc 4S... (new in 2013) Havent had a problem..great boat. Silly minor issue - but you cant open the livewell door when the spare seat is installed in the rear fishing platform. With the passenger seat installed, it opens fine... Other than that it has a sweet ride...
Sinker Posted June 6, 2016 Report Posted June 6, 2016 Actually the E-TEC's and especially the G2 are now catching up and will probably take over in another 5-7 years. They have a loooong way to go to overtake yamaha. Don't forget yammies have been top of the market for 30 years anyways. I know in nfld, you don't see any mercs on boats. Mostly Yamahas. Same thing in cuba/mexico etc....a lot of yamaha outboards. S.
Sinker Posted June 6, 2016 Report Posted June 6, 2016 Yes, Mercury Mariner, exactly the same for that year but the badging Sinker. I also have a mariner, but its a yamaha with a mariner cowling. Any parts I need I get from a yamaha dealer. Merc guys won't touch it. S.
dave524 Posted June 6, 2016 Report Posted June 6, 2016 I understand just about all 30 horses and under are pretty well Tohatsu's now a days.
grimsbylander Posted June 6, 2016 Report Posted June 6, 2016 Crestliners are good, and pay for the yammy. The black anchors suck. S. 98% of all Yamaha motors are still on the water. The other 2% made it back to the ramp.
NANUK Posted June 6, 2016 Report Posted June 6, 2016 12 years of owning 2xYamaha outboards, absolutely zero problems what so ever. Regardless of the make, you have to take care and do your maintenance, use ethenol free gas with stabilizer, every fill up.
Old Ironmaker Posted June 6, 2016 Report Posted June 6, 2016 I also have a mariner, but its a yamaha with a mariner cowling. Any parts I need I get from a yamaha dealer. Merc guys won't touch it. S. I know my 15 horse is all Yammy block, cylinders etc. I'm not sure about the 115. I do know that a dealer out here won't work on the 115 because they don't carry Mercury tools. Not that I have ever needed anything on these motors but regular maintenance.
Sinker Posted June 6, 2016 Report Posted June 6, 2016 I think '89-91 are all yamaha. Mine is a 91. Bulletproof. S.
G.mech Posted June 6, 2016 Report Posted June 6, 2016 (edited) I know my 15 horse is all Yammy block, cylinders etc. I'm not sure about the 115. I do know that a dealer out here won't work on the 115 because they don't carry Mercury tools. Not that I have ever needed anything on these motors but regular maintenance. You mean Proctor and Hyde's won't work on Merc??? They are both Merc dealers.... They may not want work on the Mariner but they service the current Merc's. Edited June 6, 2016 by G.mech
Old Ironmaker Posted June 6, 2016 Report Posted June 6, 2016 (edited) Proctors definitely, a Merc dealer. Don Hyde Marine in Hagersuigan won't touch them with a 10 foot pole. They are a Yamaha and Evinrude dealer now. They sell StarCraft tinnies and G3's as well as there big cruiser lineup. I was there today window shopping. Edited June 6, 2016 by Old Ironmaker
G.mech Posted June 7, 2016 Report Posted June 7, 2016 Proctors definitely, a Merc dealer. Don Hyde Marine in Hagersuigan won't touch them with a 10 foot pole. They are a Yamaha and Evinrude dealer now. They sell StarCraft tinnies and G3's as well as there big cruiser lineup. I was there today window shopping. No kidding? I stand corrected... sorry John. Despite all the Merc bashing, after 800+ hours my 2004 Optimax has never needed to see the dealer. Regular maintenance and it's run like a top. It wasn't my first choice when I was boat shopping either but I've been very satisfied with it.
Terry Posted June 7, 2016 Report Posted June 7, 2016 I have had the best luck with merc. And can't see any reason to switch.
grimsbylander Posted June 7, 2016 Report Posted June 7, 2016 Despite all the Merc bashing, after 800+ hours my 2004 Optimax has never needed to see the dealer. Regular maintenance and it's run like a top. It wasn't my first choice when I was boat shopping either but I've been very satisfied with it. That's excellent and I'd guess that you make sure it get's it's regular maintenance. The success of any of today's outboards starts with a proper break-in and followed with up with maintenance...not the logo on the side. Regular use of Quickleen, Quickare, Ring-Free, etc. sure doesn't hurt either. There isn't one outboard manufacturer that has a better product across all hp ratings, 2 cycle - 4 cycle, or high performance >200hp.
limeyangler Posted June 7, 2016 Author Report Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) What about this Mirrorcraft….Evinrude E-Tecs any good? 1663 AGGRESSOR 16' W/S (BLACK) SHRM B # MRR83272D616 T # 5KTBS1914GF532650 VINYL INTERIOR, AUTO FLOAT BILGE, TROLLING PLUG, STEREO W/ 2 SPEAKERS 12V POWER POINT, TRAVEL COVER, 1 EXTRA SEAT, FLIP UP CLEATS, SWIM PLATFORM, BOW STORAGE NETS, FULL TOP W/ WALK THRU CURTAIN BRP PRE RIGG, 2200 LB BUNK TRAILER W/ SWING TONGUE & ALUM RIMS SPARE TIRE & MOUNT 90 H.P. MAX OB. W/ 90 T & T $ 31,499.00 Edited June 7, 2016 by limeyangler
Mister G Posted June 7, 2016 Report Posted June 7, 2016 limeyangler, I have a 2015 E-TEC and love it..........they PURR just as quiet as any Merc/Yammy 4 stroker but not as quiet as a Honda. It's has a strong hole shot yet it gets great gas mileage.....also the self winterization is the cat's meow........check it out..... I have a 90 "HO" that is really a 115 hp detuned to 90+ hp.....with the 10% manufactures are allowed it really has 115 hp at the low end then tops off to 99 hp at the top end. If you need extra torque for a heavy boat/passengers ask about the 90 "HO".....if not with a 16' boat you will probably not need it.. The regular 90 is a inline 3 cylinder engine while the 90 "HO" is a V-4 that has better choices in props.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BCcOWnm7zo
Sinker Posted June 7, 2016 Report Posted June 7, 2016 I have a buddy selling a nearly new lund alaskan with a 60 merc tiller for $22,000 if your interested. Its a sweet boat, and hardly used. I think its a 2014, but might be a 2013 bought new in 2014. Save you a few bucks on a nearly brand new rig.
35Wailin Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) limeyangler, I bought a '98 non-current Crestliner Kodiak 16' in '99. It came with a 3 year bow to stern warranty and a 20 year hull weld warranty. It is made with 100 guage aluminum. I have a bow seat, two benches and a split rear. It handles rough water well. Rated for a 40 tiller, but I have a 25 Yammie that I bought last year on it, replacing the '99 25 Johnson 3-cylinder that came with it. I can not say enough good things about my Crestliner. When I was shopping around, I had a short list with Lund, Princecraft and Crestliner. All three are good, but the layout, dealer availability and price were the major deciding factors. The older Legend boats were made on Crestliner hulls. I'm not sure who makes the Legend hulls now. Edited June 14, 2016 by 35Wailin
35Wailin Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 Despite all the Merc bashing, after 800+ hours my 2004 Optimax has never needed to see the dealer. Regular maintenance and it's run like a top. It wasn't my first choice when I was boat shopping either but I've been very satisfied with it. I cannot comment on the 4 stroke Mercs, but the smaller 2 strokes are not good fishing engines. They don't troll smoothly, seeming to spit and sputter and rattle. The old OMCs were awesome for trolling, but then if you don't troll and are more of a run n gun angler, that is a moot point.
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