captpierre Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Hi Gents. Been using an older Abu Eon as a walleye trolling rod. Wasn't the best but it got the job done. Well, it got real sick yesterday. After opening it up, it died on the table. Looking for a bullet proof Bait Caster for slow trolling 30 lb braid. Occasionally casting. Was wondering if such a thing comes with a line counter. I have a great Diawa trolling real with counter for salmon/ dipsey trolling but it's too big for Pigeon Lake. Anybody have any suggestions? Yah and not too expensive. Preferably under $200. Thanks Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) 17 series diawa line counter. The accudepth is cheap and works well. I have the 20 series okuma convector, but I don't like it as well. I also recently bought garcia silver max reels for my bottom bouncer rods, and they are pretty cheap and effective and they have a flipping switch for letting out line one handed. Not bad for casting either. I'm using powerpro metered line on them so I can use them for pulling cranks with some repeatability. It not quite the same as a line counter, but it works ok. Edited September 29, 2015 by porkpie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) If it's strictly trolling the the shimano tekota 300LC is about as good as it gets.The Okuma cold water reels are newer in the market and so far no issues that I hear about. A size 15 should work for your needsIf you cast as we'll then Abu 5500 or 6500 come in line counters too Edited September 29, 2015 by Fang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherpete Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 X 2 on Shimano Tekota. I have 500's and 600's for muskie and salmon trolling and they are bulletproof. Don't see why the 300 size wouldn't be just as good. Pretty close to the $200 mark when on sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 i have two tekota 300lc's. they are nice! can't see casting when them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 get a reel you like and don't worry about the line counter part as you can buy a clip on to the rod line counter. http://www.basspro.com/Berkley-Line-Counter/product/10220051/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpierre Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 17 series diawa line counter. The accudepth is cheap and works well. I have the 20 series okuma convector, but I don't like it as well. I also recently bought garcia silver max reels for my bottom bouncer rods, and they are pretty cheap and effective and they have a flipping switch for letting out line one handed. Not bad for casting either. I'm using powerpro metered line on them so I can use them for pulling cranks with some repeatability. It not quite the same as a line counter, but it works ok.Never heard of the PP metered line. Looked it up. Sounds interesting. I'm thinking that would work. Then I could get a Baitcaster and not just a trolling reel. Bonus. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Accudepth 17 is a great counter for trolling... No good for casting tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 accudepths do not hold up in the cold..... but the daiwa sealines do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scugpg Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Okuma Coldwater low profile. I use one of these on a 7ft medium rod when trolling small lakes. http://www.okumafishing.com/product/view/reels/linecounters/cold-water-low-profile-line-counter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I think the Abu Eon was one of Abu's short lived reels, they seem to of had a number of them after the 1970's. http://www.fishingwithpiotr.com/fishing-maps/pigeon-lake/ That is the limit of my knowledge of the lake, it doesn't appear to be a deep lake, is a line counter really needed? If price is a concern? http://www.basspro.com/Shimano-Citica-I-Series-LowProfile-Baitcast-Reel/product/2229765/ That should do fine for walleye trolling, a 200 series, and you get a lefty-righty choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 You'll be hard pressed to find a line-counter that will cast effectively. I've seen it done with a Sealine, but it wasn't pretty! Those clip on line counters are a royal pain in the ba doop due, especially if you are late season trolling. They don't like cold weather. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 accudepths do not hold up in the cold..... but the daiwa sealines do. They don't? I have 2 that say otherwise. I agree the sealines are a better reel, but the accudepth has been pretty good to me for the buck. Mind you I still have a cheap rapala line counter that hasn't imploded yet, so I must be good at finding unicorns. Admittedly the rapala doesn't see much use though. I've used the accudepths pretty hard and late into the season with no real issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 accudepths do not hold up in the cold..... but the daiwa sealines do. Mine do... I break ice to fish in December and they perform fine... Especially at that price point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANUK Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Newer accudepths are good reels, I service my own reels and the newer (grey) accudepths are build identical to salines minus the bearings, I wouldn't recommend them for every day Lake Ontario kings but for a weekend warrior they are good, Excellent for walleye. Old black & gold accudepths were junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpierre Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 So Gents. Instead of a reel counter, Is there a good Baitcaster for the job? Easy to let line out. I guess they all do that by thumb Would be used mostly for trolling cranks, harnesses. 30 lb braid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rousseau Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 So Gents. Instead of a reel counter, Is there a good Baitcaster for the job? Easy to let line out. I guess they all do that by thumb Would be used mostly for trolling cranks, harnesses. 30 lb braid. Any will do that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scugpg Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Wouldn't you want one with a bait clicker though if your not trolling with reel in hand? Not many bait casters have a clicker though. Revo Toro NaCl does in a 50 series. Not sure of others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Cheap and effective? So far I'm liking the 2 garcia silver max reels I got. No idea how well they will hold up long term though. They cast as well as a shimano citica, can be had for $60-70 on sale and seem to so the job pretty well. I bought them just for my bottom bouncer rods, but used them as casting rods at the cottage a few times when we where just doing a quick overnight and It was too much hassle to pull the boat with all my gear. So far so good. Added bonus is the flipping switch, which is great for letting out line one handed when bottom rigging. Second choice, Citica. A little more money,but very reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishdawg Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Okuma Coldwater low profile. I use one of these on a 7ft medium rod when trolling small lakes. http://www.okumafishing.com/product/view/reels/linecounters/cold-water-low-profile-line-counter X2 great reels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Bag Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 X2 great reels I have two Coldwater 354DLX (lefties). Great reels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggie Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Great thread guys! I use a very large Okuma reel suitable for Great Lakes rainbow or salmon but way too much reel for bottom bouncing walleye. The info in this thread sure helps. I do like the line counter though. After a few times out you get to know exactly what line lengh will do the trick with a lot less hangups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captpierre Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Looking around on line. Seems the flipping switch is a must for trolling/bottom bouncing. Can somebody explain how it works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 flippin switch allows you to let more line out, without actually releasing the bail. i've never used one when trolling or bottom bouncing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkpie Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Looking around on line. Seems the flipping switch is a must for trolling/bottom bouncing. Can somebody explain how it works? It's not a must, it's just a handy feature. I can drive the boat, fiddle with sonar, and click the flipping switch with my thumb to drop my bouncer an additional 5 feet to account for depth change, and I don't have to turn the handle on the reel which works for me as I use downeast holders mainly. Your mileage may vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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