bare foot wader Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 When animal populations get out of wack, or species invade lakes where they don't belong, there is only ONE animal at fault. Humans. Its the human population on this planet thats causing the real problems. can't argue that....but when you create a problem, do you sit back and watch it get worse? sorry mother nature, you fix it... I believe public outcry is largely a regional/cultural lack of understanding, seems many accept hunting to put meat on the table but then are also against predator hunting...it's not like shooting a rare wolf pack in algonquin, it's very very different with western populations
bigugli Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 can't argue that....but when you create a problem, do you sit back and watch it get worse? sorry mother nature, you fix it... At the rate mankind is going, Ma Nature might just fix that human infestation permanently
kuhaman Posted November 20, 2014 Report Posted November 20, 2014 At the rate mankind is going, Ma Nature might just fix that human infestation permanently Hopefully she starts with those 72 people that liked that fb page!!
Rod Caster Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 Wolf meat would be gross. Most guys don't make pelts either. It's a lot work and fetches a lower dollar when it has bullet holes haha. Most shot wolves are just wasted and left for other wolves to eat.
Beavertail Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 Not so sure a wolf will eat another dead wolf carcass. Same goes for coyotes...I've seen coyote carcass's that are left untouched for weeks by other coyotes where if it was a deer gut-pile it would be gone overnight. They are both intelligent animals and must know it's not healthy to eat your own kind.
ch312 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 Wolf meat would be gross. Most guys don't make pelts either. It's a lot work and fetches a lower dollar when it has bullet holes haha. Most shot wolves are just wasted and left for other wolves to eat. Huh? They fetch a pretty penny and the holes from bullets are sewn up and do not effect value. NAFA 2014 fur auction: Timber Wolf 498 furs submitted 98% sold Overall average $163.80 Highest price paid for a single hide $625.00 Arctic Wolves 131 furs submitted 93% sold Overall average $419.67 Highest price paid for a single hide $1,450.00 Coyote: Total of 72,177 furs submitted with 100% sold Heavy I Overall average $90.67, highest paid $750.00 Semi I Overall average $45.58, highest paid $100.00 Eastern I Overall average $38.45, highest paid $102.00
ch312 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 With a whopping 72 likes on that disgusting facebook site I think this is not the sentiment of 99.9 percent of the people in the USA. We for the most part have the same love and respect of wildlife and honor our hunted by being humane and eating our kills. Anyone who does other than that is look at with scorn in my eyes. Art When it comes to predator management, in most cases the hunter or trapper will not eat any of the meat from the predators they're hunting or trapping. These people honor and respect their quarry just as much as a deer or waterfowl hunter.
Rod Caster Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 Well then CH...maybe I'll start a new hobby haha. Seriously though, a lot of them that are not 'trapped' just get wasted. These are often land owners that just want the wolves away from livestock. As far as I know, they'll eat their own... I've never witnessed it so I can't say for sure.
aplumma Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 When it comes to predator management, in most cases the hunter or trapper will not eat any of the meat from the predators they're hunting or trapping. These people honor and respect their quarry just as much as a deer or waterfowl hunter. I beg to differ I have seen many people shoot vermin and just leave them lay. I personally do not hunt bears because I do not like the taste of meat eaters. If it is a management program that is needed to balance something that is out of whack then predator hunting is fine. It is the shoot and let it rot attitude is what I object too. Art
Joeytier Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 Well then CH...maybe I'll start a new hobby haha. Seriously though, a lot of them that are not 'trapped' just get wasted. These are often land owners that just want the wolves away from livestock. As far as I know, they'll eat their own... I've never witnessed it so I can't say for sure. Hides cannot be sold commercially without a trappers license (my understanding anyway) so naturally a farmer wouldnt be able to do mich with it.
pics Posted November 21, 2014 Report Posted November 21, 2014 I would love a wolf pelt but after pricing them at gramps in Temagami I would say they are out of my price range. I'm a little superstitious so shooting one might not be for me either...lol
ch312 Posted November 22, 2014 Report Posted November 22, 2014 I beg to differ I have seen many people shoot vermin and just leave them lay. I personally do not hunt bears because I do not like the taste of meat eaters. If it is a management program that is needed to balance something that is out of whack then predator hunting is fine. It is the shoot and let it rot attitude is what I object too. Art Your first post made it appear you're against any killing if you're not going to eat it. I totally agree with what you're saying. If you kill it, use the meat or fur whenever possible.
Whitespinnerbait Posted November 23, 2014 Report Posted November 23, 2014 Simple case of ....The Thrill of Killing an Animal !!!
MCTFisher9120 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Posted November 23, 2014 wolves, birds, deer its all the same...the group seems to love killing wolves obviously but i see 15 birds on a tailgate or 3 or 4 deer strung up quite often on Facebook. I love pictures of living things but the dead pics don't do anything for me. A deer standing eyes open in the bush would be sweet, dead in a garage not so sweet IMO But that's cause I'm a fisherman!
lew Posted November 23, 2014 Report Posted November 23, 2014 A deer standing eyes open in the bush would be sweet, dead in a garage not so sweet IMO I'm with you Mike and a deer in the yard is even better
LostAnotherOne Posted November 23, 2014 Report Posted November 23, 2014 Beautiful pics of the deer. Thank god my dad was never a hunter, but a fisherman.
Terry Posted November 23, 2014 Report Posted November 23, 2014 I don't need to see a dead cow if I don't have to But I still eat them and I want them dead before I eat them. And moose too
MCTFisher9120 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Posted November 23, 2014 I'm with you Mike and a deer in the yard is even better That's a good picture of some deer yes Lew! I understand population control and good harvesting when it comes to hunting but this is what we need to see more of!
Gerritt Posted November 23, 2014 Report Posted November 23, 2014 People believe their meat comes from foam trays.. We are so out of touch of where our food comes from it really is sad.. Growing up my grandparents had a hobby farm, cows pigs chickens.. We knew where our meat was coming from... As the animals were named after us. Fresh butter, cream and whole milk were a norm. I understand the need to hunt and kill for substance...I am pro hunting... But to kill for the sole sake of killing is something I cannot agree with. G
ch312 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Posted November 23, 2014 Beautiful pics of the deer. Thank god my dad was never a hunter, but a fisherman. Thank god my dad was a hunter, if not I would have never known how great deer tastes!
ch312 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Posted November 23, 2014 People believe their meat comes from foam trays.. We are so out of touch of where our food comes from it really is sad.. G Wait, you mean those steaks, drumsticks, and ribs didn't come out of a machine?
lew Posted November 23, 2014 Report Posted November 23, 2014 I knew if I posted that picture it would ruffle a few feathers hahaha
Gerritt Posted November 24, 2014 Report Posted November 24, 2014 Wait, you mean those steaks, drumsticks, and ribs didn't come out of a machine? Yup and all boneless as well! God forbid meat has bones!
lew Posted November 24, 2014 Report Posted November 24, 2014 Some of you guys are pretty comical really...or is it sad ?? All Mike said was he prefers to see pictures of live animals rather that those that had been killed by hunters and immediately some of you have to start the nonsense about where food comes from. Pretty sure Mike knows where it comes from, he's a sharp guy, and I doubt he needs all the childish comments but as usual their inevitable by some members. Maybe a few guys around here could try something different and let a person give his opinion about a topic without all the foolish commentary.
Pigeontroller Posted November 24, 2014 Report Posted November 24, 2014 Nothing wrong with enjoying watching a few deer in your yard. And nothing wrong with harvesting some for food. I have a problem with people that don't understand the natural order. Maybe a viewing of Disney's 'The lion King' is in order! Lol
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