kickingfrog Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/saskatchewan/story/1.2818238 An ice-fishing dad who was accused of having too many lines in the water has been cleared by a judge because his three-year-old daughter was fishing with him. According to a recent Spiritwood court case, in March, the man had been fishing on Turtle Lake with his daughter and there were four lines in the water. Under Fisheries Act rules, anglers who are ice fishing can only have two lines in the water at the same time. A conservation officer ticketed him, saying the little girl didn't have the ability to set up the icefishing rig, maintain it, watch it and retrieve fish. The father fought the ticket in provincial court and won. Part of his evidence was the Saskatchewan Anglers Guide 2014, which on its cover shows what appears to be a father helping his young daughter bait a hook. No minimum age Judge Dan O'Hanlon said the only issue to be determined was whether or not the three-year-old was legally fishing. Reviewing the rules, he decided there's no minimum age limit for what constitutes an angler. "Just because an individual is three years of age, and does not have the ability to do everything required when fishing, it does not mean that he or she cannot legally fish," O'Hanlon said in a written ruling. He then found the father not guilty of the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted October 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Baby boom predicted in Saskatchewan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GbayGiant Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 If everyone had to have a license. It would not be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 sask just lost some revenue tickets....sensible judge, good on the guy for fighting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Emil's been showing us how that works for years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) lol in ontario it's not the rods it's who reels it in if you reel it in for your kid it counts against both daily limits, so you don't get to take the extra fish if it is a handicap person then you can reel or help reel and not have it count against your limit Edited October 30, 2014 by Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Wayne, lol!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 If everyone had to have a license. It would not be an issue. In Ontario those under 18 (Canadian residents) are deemed to be license holders. So here a 3 year old would have a license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted October 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 I'm of 2 minds on this. As a option to have a better chance for a young child to see/catch a fish, great. The more fun, the more they are likely to be a lifelong angler. But as a means to increase your creel, I feel it is wrong. For me, until my son could reel in his own fish I'd only keep my limit. Legal and moral don't always mesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Putting 2 extra lines down because you've got a 3 year old on the ice seems like nothing more then a reason to fill the bucket. I doubt the poor kid could even move in his snowsuit, lol. Edited October 30, 2014 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Yup, what Wayne said.LOL When I take the kiddies out, they have their one rod and that's it. They are not watching another line as they lose interest in the one they are using in about 15 minutes or so. Then it,s time to play in the snow or with the minnows.LOL Edited October 30, 2014 by Brian B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 How about trolling on the great lakes? I don't keep those fish, but I run the extra rods for my son.....he fights them as best he can, and I help where needed, but there is no way I'd let him set up the riggers. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) How about trolling on the great lakes? I don't keep those fish, but I run the extra rods for my son.....he fights them as best he can, and I help where needed, but there is no way I'd let him set up the riggers. S. I think that's fine, my oldman did that with me when I was young. It's all about the kid having fun and in this case more rods = more chances at a big fat chinnie. Edited October 30, 2014 by BillM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 My kids started fishing around 3 or 4. I will say most functional children can and will land a fish with a little help. My 3 year old daughter landed he first walleye this spring, totally on her own until I grabbed the fish shoreside. That being said, i set up lines for her last winter ice fishing, and she could not reel in a fish with gloves etc. So her fish were released and I decided the better method was to assist her landing fish on my rods and of course they went towards my limit if I chose to harvest. So this is a tricky one. The lil one has rights bit those can easily be manipulated by poor moral judgement of an adult. Keep in mind this is no ice fishing rod. Its a 6'6 stick and my daughter is 3 and a half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 I think its pretty obvious when someone is using children to increase their limit. And thats just a shame. Hook your kids on fishing the right way, from the start, to respect the resource Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 don't agree with building laws that restrict honest guys...if somebody is going to poach they will do so regardless of what the regs are I think 2 lines increases hook up opportunity for kids, if it's fun then they'll continue fishing later in life yes, most kids don't have the focus to maintain two rods...so they get tipups instead last winter somebody seemed to be having a family outing on the ice....there were 2 tip ups set for every person by the looks of it...and the kids had a blast running when a flag popped...they released plenty of fish and kept a few pike, perch and walleye and fried them up on the ice that ticket seems like a cash grab to me..increase fines for more serious stuff, over limits, out of season, fishing in sanctuaries, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 you can set up the rods and riggers but if you help reel in the fish it counts against your limit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 agreed. My local mnr now knows us. They know im not using my kids to fill a bucket. Just out there to have fun and teach my kids the fun of angling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Sorry about the second photo. I tried to quote a previous post and boom! Haha. Perhaps my kids need to teach me technology hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom McCutcheon Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 I don't mind the second photo, it shows what it's all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Are we actually of the thinking that kids shouldn't be allowed to fish with the same rights and advantages as a grownup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Wayne! LOL Money grab, plain and simple. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 I'll have to dig up the picture... my son fishing at Kelso in Milton when he was 2 years old (and we had him tied to a tree ! lol). Gave him an ice fishing rod and he could bring them in on his own. Same deal with my nephews and nieces.. I taught them all how to fish on the dock in Temagami from 2 to 3 years old and they could reel them in themselves with the spincast push button reels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Are we actually of the thinking that kids shouldn't be allowed to fish with the same rights and advantages as a grownup? There is a CO in Saskatchawan the seems to think that way. In my opinion, any child who is engaged in the fishing should be able to have their own rod(s). I think this should apply even if they need some assistance. Some inexperienced adults still need assistance. I do think that putting an extra rod in for a kid who is not even paying attention to what is going on should not be allowed. The child should be involved in the fishing in order to count as an angler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Are we actually of the thinking that kids shouldn't be allowed to fish with the same rights and advantages as a grownup? no to me 100% same rights and if you reel up a fish on my rod, it is added to your limit if you help me reel in it's added to both our limits same rule for kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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