irishfield Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) Would have put in FNews but can't start a topic there for some reason.... Well after many decades and many dollars spent treating the Aurora as a species of it's own, the MNR managed to find a biologist willing to call it just a Brook Trout wearing makeup! The Aurora is no longer eligible to be on the species at risk list.. and suspect all funding will stop for it's care and stocking as well. http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@mnr/@species/documents/research/stdprod_091136.pdf Edited March 12, 2013 by irishfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancur373 Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 That blows. won't be long till they're consumed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I still want to catch one Before it's too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adempsey Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) Do you have a copy of the COSEWIC report by chance? Would like to see that. edit: Lol, sorry! I hadn't realized your second link was to that report. Edited March 12, 2013 by FishLogic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky or Specks Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 As long as Whirligig and Whitepine remain sanctuaries it really shouldn't have an impact other than no more stocking of the 10 lakes with non selfsustaining populations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torco Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 and the march to barren wastelands continues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaster Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 It won't be long before the Mad Max revolution begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I wonder how much $$$$ the MNR is going to save because of this.. Honestly, I'd rather catch brookies with the spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 "new genetic and breeding data indicate that the Aurora Trout is not genetically distinct from Brook Trout" So all the people that thought they were catching something special were not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highdrifter Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 You prepping for doomsday too?! and the march to barren wastelands continues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 You prepping for doomsday too?! I don't know about torco but the guy I usually get my preppin' stuff from wasn't answering his phone today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Caster Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 There is not a lot of literature cited in the references. Seems like a quick conclusion, maybe more science is needed?.... still, as Brad said, as long as whirligig and whitepine are kept as sanctuaries I'm not overly alarmed at the change in status. I'd better get into Liberty in two years before they all die. It was more exciting knowing they were genetically different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipfisher Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Is the "fancy" brook trout going to be open yearly in the other lakes like Liberty and Wyn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJQ Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 That sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosebunk Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 My buddy will be bummed. Cool fish... but little fish... in a big world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Caster Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Nipfisher- I'm gonna guess they will keep them rotationally open for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfield Posted March 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Amazing what you can learn by reading council meeting agendas.... stuff that hasn't been presented to the public for input!! Even TJ didn't have it on his Aurora site yet... but of course he's busy boiling sap! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhousesoccer Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 It was a genetic mutation of the brook trout. Just like some wolves are black and some are grey. The genetic mutation that cause these "brook trout" to appear without spots and that bright red colouration stayed and was perpetuated by natural reproduction between individuals possessing that same genetic trait in the local populations, until they began to decline, and humans intervened to try and "save" them. The remaining populations today have gone through a severe genetic bottleneck, being founded from a very small original population when the recovery program was started through hatchery breeding. They have almost no genetic variability, which is a large threat to the population in terms of the ability to reproduce in the wild, grow, and survive. Adding some new genetic material from brook trout won't dilute what makes the Aurora Trout what it is. There's alot of work that's gone into this, and I seriously doubt it's going to be abandoned. "new genetic and breeding data indicate that the Aurora Trout is not genetically distinct from Brook Trout"So all the people that thought they were catching something special were not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvaholic Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 That sucks - Sounds like another way to save money to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCTFisher9120 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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