Live2fish85 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 http://haldimandwindconcerns.com/?p=1905#comment-1883
kickingfrog Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 Hate arguing the side of a corp but bald eagles are a close equivalent to seagulls and the middle of winter is the right time because if the nest had remained, there would be a bigger pr disaster come the nesting season.
Live2fish85 Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Posted January 6, 2013 There is only 57 nests in Ontario now one less. I don't agree about them being anything like seagulls. If you think windmills are good do some research. There are useless.
kickingfrog Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 There is only 57 nests in Ontario now one less. I don't agree about them being anything like seagulls. If you think windmills are good do some research. There are useless. I don't know where you got the number of 57 from and I never commented on the pro/con of the windmills. Bald eagles are scavengers.
Dave Bailey Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 MNR quote: Removing the nest will reduce the risk of eagle mortality at the site. If they don't nest there again then the mortality rate for that location is, in essence, 100%. "Oh dear, they might get killed flying into a turbine so let's prevent them breeding at all!" I think there might be more to this than we've heard so far. No real ideas, just a feeling.
Christopheraaron Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 Bald eagles are scavengers. Don't think this fish would agree...
SmokestackLightnin Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 They need to adjust their facts a bit. There are more than 57 bald eagle nests in Ontario. The actual fact is there were 57 known active bald eagle nests in Southern Ontario in 2011, up from 51 in 2010. Of those 57, 41 were successful in reproduction. It is not known how many bald eagle nests there are in Ontario, the study only covers Southern Ontario. The article also mentions that this was an active nest. Each active nest is monitored and numbered accordingly, I wonder which nest this artice refers to? I had the pleasure of watching FR-1 for a number of years on Bobs Lake in Frontenac County. It was very productive nest. Here is the most recent report (2011) from the Southern Ontario monitoring program, it's a quick read but gives a good insight on the eagle population going in the right direction: http://www.birdscanada.org/download/BAEArpt.pdf
kickingfrog Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 Don't think this fish would agree... You mean a half dead floater? Bald eagles rarely kill their own prey, they most often will scavenge other animal's kills or steal from others. These are facts, not opinions or perceptions. This also doesn't mean that they have no value, far from it, but proper perspective is needed.
captpierre Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 Would the breeding pair not just build a new one?
kickingfrog Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 Careful, the weak stance taken can't take much scrutiny.
Live2fish85 Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Posted January 6, 2013 They don't make power? When I flew into Copenhagen, there were turbines scattered in every direction I could see...hundreds of them. Did the Danes just build them for something to do? I never said that they don't make power. I said they are useless. When do we get the most wind? spring and fall. When do we use the least hydro? Spring and fall. If you know a thing about these windmills the energy can't be stored for long so has to be sold, which goes for cheap. Look at Spain they are full of them and they rarely use them. You can't get rid of the power plants as windmills are useless. So what is the point. As for the Blade Eagles I apologize on my answer lol. I miss read and answered before checking again. Thank you for the read though.
stendec Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 I agree, do a bit of reading on these windmills that are popping up all over Ontario they cost a lot more than they are worth, break down all the time and cause problems with birds and bats. Check out the 'Shadow Flicker' effect that they cause on nearby homes. If you like them so much, go move next to one. As for the eagles nest, typical MNR.
jim Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 While it's true that Eagles,[like wolves and bears] will scavange gut piles etc. , they do hunt their own prey. I've watched them take ducks, loons and fish, at my camp in Quebec. They will also hit our fish gut pile that we maintain on an island nearby. Anyone who hunts moose in noprthern Ontario, can attest to the fact, that there must be many more than 57 nests in Ontario. They are very prevelent.
manitoubass2 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 We have 8 or so right near are house. There everywhere in out little area of NW Ontario. They do hunt and they do scavenge. Very beautiful birds, I enjoy watching them. Destroying a nest doesn't sit easy with me
lew Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 there must be many more than 57 nests in Ontario. They are very prevelent. I'm sure there are many many more than 57 in the entire province. I'm in the Kawarthas where Bald Eagles are relatively new and I've got 2 nests within walking distance. I took this pic a couple months back right above my house, and yesterday while working outside one flew overhead so low I could darn near reach up and touch him. By the time I got the camera he was gone. Here's 2 more birds from not too far away a couple years back.
DRIFTER_016 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 Don't think this fish would agree... Kodiak Alaska Dump. Dump in BC Thunder Bay More dump diving Baldies While beautiful to look at, they're just big pidgeons wearing tuxedos.
Joeytier Posted January 7, 2013 Report Posted January 7, 2013 LOL@ the 57 nests in Ontario Bull. Bald eagle numbers have been increasing steadily for decades since the banning of CFC's nearly wiped them out decades ago. Nothing 'sickening' about this. That article was P3TA-calibre stupidity.
mbac31 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Posted January 7, 2013 Pigeons wearing tuxedos comment will have me laughing all day.
Rich Posted January 7, 2013 Report Posted January 7, 2013 Obviously if you actually have a problem with power production you have that choice of not using power.
Live2fish85 Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) Obviously if you actually have a problem with power production you have that choice of not using power. Yea well we don't have the choice of paying taxes on the dumb things which is going to be ridiculous. Also this isn't doing anything to make things greener as they say. They have to keep to Power plants running as the wind turbines aren't a sufficient energy producer. Edited January 7, 2013 by Live2fish85
Rich Posted January 7, 2013 Report Posted January 7, 2013 There's drawbacks to every source of electricity, even solar..
Live2fish85 Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) Yes but those drawbacks aren't going to cost us a huge jump in taxes. They will sell most of the power from these turbines to Quebec and the states for less then what we are paying for it to be made. Edited January 7, 2013 by Live2fish85
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